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Anchorbend · 05-10-2006

OK, I hear that there may be a gasoline shortage and that the saving grace is ETHANOL.

Some parts of the country are using a 10% mix already and there is something called "flexfuel" or something like that. Will Ethanol adversely affect the Bonnie either as a mixture or straight mixture?

Panthermark · 05-10-2006

Come on Anchorbend, you are in the Midwest, you should know this one.

.Ethanol mixes have been around for years. All I use is 89 Octane Ethanol mixed gas....then again...I grew up in the great corn state of Iowa.....so I'm used to it.

Go Ethanol!!!!
Go Bio-diesel!!!

No more fuel from the Middle East!

By the way, Brazil will be "fuel independent" either this year or next year. They will no longer rely on crude oil from the middle east for fuel. Back in the 70's with the oil embargo's, they didn't have the clout of the U.S., so they started using their own resources. Now, almost all of their vehicles are flex-fueled, and they produce their own fuel from sugarcane. Yes, like we corn ethanol fuel available. They have cane ethanol.

Remember, the original diesel fuel was meant to run on vegetable and peanut oil. You can thank big oil companies for the mess we are in now.

Way to go Brazil!!

RoundSlide · 05-10-2006

As stated in page 26 of the owner's manual fuels containing either ethanol (defined as a 90 / 10 gas / ethanol mixture) or MTBE may be safely used. It's all good.

Panthermark · 05-10-2006

Here is a good read on how Brazil has done it.

Brazil - Cane Ethanol

We have the technology and resources to make this work....even if we use corn instead of sugar.

Panthermark · 05-10-2006

Here is another one on flex-fueled cars in Brazil.

Brazil - Flex-Fuel

I'm pretty passionate about this stuff. I live in a town-home now, but I'm actually thinking about moving way out into the sticks so that I can have room to brew my own bio-diesel and put solar panels on my house. (plus I want to brew my own beer!)

I don't want a 100p hybrid car. I want a 200hp diesel truck who's exhaust smells like french-fries and meets near zero emission standards. The drawback is that NOx levels go up.

Support our farmers!!!

Bio Diesel from veggie Oil (soy beans), and ethanol (corn)!!!

[ This message was edited by: Panthermark on 2006-05-10 12:02 ]

SbGunslinger · 05-10-2006

Henry Ford wanted to use grain ahcol Back in the turn of the centry. But fond that oil was cheaper at the time & plentiful

Strontje · 05-10-2006

I'm with ya on the alt-fuel thing, Mark, but the beer? No excuses! There's no need to wait until you're living in the sticks. I still brewed when I lived in a one bedroom apartment. You don't need a lot of space.

monkeyboy · 05-10-2006

They leave out a lot. Very oversimplified as compared to the American market.

From what I have seen from the diesel side, if we farm all of our available land producing corn for ethanol we can cut our dependance on oil by 2%.

There has to be a better way.

Casper · 05-10-2006

We need bio fule in the United Kingdom as it is $7.00 per Gallon

I'd like any Brits who've run their bike on bio fuel to drop me a line or indeed anybody else for that matter.

I understand you can make your own in a still?

Casper

Loxpump · 05-10-2006

I believe the flex-fuel vehicles burn what's called E85, or 85% ethanol. 15% gas. Can only be burned in a vehicle designed for it. The fuel injection computer/ sensors automatically adjusts for the less dense ethanol. Or something like that. It is available and cheaper around here in the Midwest, but your gas mileage isn't as good as regular gas. Also I hear that they have to use petroleum to manufacture ethanol! If that's true than what's the point. I think it's like the hybrids, all tree hugging feel good *****.