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Old 08-28-2013, 09:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Interesting observation. Can you tell us how they both felt after a few hundred miles of riding? I was very interested in hearing from someone who judged them on actual merit aside from pictures. Sounds like you're "in the know". I can't wait to hear your first hand review of both seats. I was waiting for just such info before I broke down and bought one...
I'm betting he is "underwhelmed" by the looks?
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Old 08-28-2013, 09:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm betting he is "underwhelmed" by the looks?
LOL, A picture or two? What a great way to determine the merit of something... anything...
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Old 08-29-2013, 12:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yeah...subscribing to this thread. I was about to pull the trigger on a Thruxton gel, but I can wait long enough to see how people feel about these after a few miles in the saddle. I think they look pretty good...though I'm not too crazy about taking the OEM Triumph logo off of the back of my ride. Dumb, I guess, but it's how I'm feeling.
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Old 08-29-2013, 08:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm skeptical

I'm extremely skeptical, and am not ready just yet, for the following reasons:

1) the 2 styles they are promoting must be prototypes. I don't see any evidence of market research that leads me to believe that they really grasp the bike and its variants, its riders, and the shortcomings of other Bonneville seats in the marketplace.

2) Mustang's business has been built on manufacturing seats for Harleys. This is an entirely new business/type of seat for them. It will take iterations of development for them to get it right.

3) They seem to have lowered the seat somewhat, to meet their stylistic interpretation. I'm 5.11, and ride on a solo, so am probably going to lose 3 inches in height, which will reduce my range.

4) This is not a large bike. Riding 2-up is the exception, not the rule. Why didn't they debut with a solo seat, rather than 2 of essentially the same seat? Perhaps because they didn't do their market research?

5) After a year, they may possibly have listened to Bonneville riders and built a seat that meets our needs. Until I hear otherwise from reviewers, I'm going to hold off.

That being said, I really like their stylistic interpretation. If they can build a really comfortable seat, that is no lower that the Triumph solo seat, and is designed stylistically to ride solo, then I'm up for it, particularly based on their reputation for quality and comfort.

I have been trying to convince them to send me a seat in order to do a thorough review, but no word from them yet.

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Old 08-29-2013, 10:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I posted that on sunday:

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk...-are-here.html

Which one did you order? How long did they tell you it would take to get? Be sure to post pics when you have the seat on please.
Received the Mustang seat today and installed it.

Sat on it. Definitely higher than the stock Bonnie seat.

I had two Mustang seats on two Harleys and found them to be very comfortable and very well made, so I have high hopes for this one.

The manufacturing quality of this seat looks to be top notch and what I expected from Mustang.

That's about all I can say about it right now. Hope to take it for a nice long ride tomorrow.

Here are a few pictures. I'll take better ones of the bike outside.









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Old 08-29-2013, 11:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Received the Mustang seat today and installed it.

Sat on it. Definitely higher than the stock Bonnie seat.
... looks good.... But it doesn't look like the rider is higher than the stock seat. um... would you mind shooting a profile of each, side to side?

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Old 08-29-2013, 11:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Can't really tell from the pics, but how is the fit in the back, around the fender? Does it wrap the fender correctly, or does it extend past? That is my complaint with the Corbin Gunfighter & Lady.
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Old 08-30-2013, 05:59 AM   #18 (permalink)
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4) This is not a large bike. Riding 2-up is the exception, not the rule. Why didn't they debut with a solo seat, rather than 2 of essentially the same seat? Perhaps because they didn't do their market research?
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excuse my French but what a crock of kakappopoo. The Bonnie is a fine two up tool I often take the MRS and find the Bonnie (tho only slightly slower on the uptake) handles better with the added bonus of weight over the back end. of course my wife is a cracking pillion and we ride together as one. the mum the dad and the holy smoke
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Old 08-31-2013, 06:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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First Report on Mustang Seat

I didn't get to ride as long as planned, but I did put 111 miles on the new seat yesterday. About three hours total, with the longest single stretch 1 hr. 45 min. That was enough to tell that it is a significant improvement over the stock seat, but there is a issue for me, a short rider.

Let me clarify a little bit about the stock seat I'm comparing this to.

I have a 2012 Bonneville (Basic, not SE) and it came with the seat that has the rider section "cut down" to lower the seat height.
Now, I'm short (5' 7") and even I felt that this was too low and constraining. So, I bought a seat on eBay that was removed from a 2007 T100. This seat is all one level and feels about an inch higher than my stock seat. It wasn't any more comfortable as far as getting saddle sore, but it was more comfortable as far as my legs not being bent quite as much and freedom of movement and I could still put my feet flat on the ground.

This Mustang seat (Ribbed One-Piece Seat, Part Number: 76827) feels about the same height as the T100 seat. So, if you have a "cut down" seat, you'll notice an increase in seat height, but if you have T100 type seat, you won't.

I don't know if the Classic One-Piece Seat, Part Number: 76828 is the same height. Looking at the pictures on the Mustang web site, the Ribbed One-Piece Seat looked like it might be thicker, so that's why I chose it. I wish Mustang would give more information and images than they have now.

I tried to be a little more scientific and took some comparison measurements just to show that there are differences in the seats.

I put the bike on the center stand and installed each seat. I placed a level on what looked like the lowest part of each seat and measured from the floor to the bottom of the level. I tried to measure as close to the same point as possible.



Seat Heights:
Stock Seat: 30 3/4 In.
T100 Seat: 31 1/2 In.
Mustang Seat: 31 1/4 In.

Other measurements:

Rider Section Length:
Stock Seat: 14 1/4 In.
T100 Seat: 15 In.
Mustang Seat: 17 In.

Rider Section Width (at widest point):
Stock Seat: 11 In.
T100 Seat: 11 In.
Mustang Seat: 12 1/2 In.

Passenger Section Length:
Stock Seat: 11 1/2 In.
T100 Seat: 12 In.
Mustang Seat: 12 In.

Passenger Section Width (at widest point):
Stock Seat: 11 In.
T100 Seat: 11 In.
Mustang Seat: 10 1/2 In.

Now, the issue I mentioned earlier has to do with the length of the rider section of the seat.

As I stated, I'm short in height and arm length, so I sit toward the front of the seat to reach the handlebars comfortably. Unfortunately for me, the widest and most supportive part of the Mustang seat is at the rear of the rider section and I can't comfortably sit all the way back to take advantage of it. I tried, but it's too much of a stretch and I leaned forward too much to stay in that position for very long. But, I could feel the full support the seat has at that point.

For taller riders, this extra room front to back, will probably be welcomed, but for me, it would be better if the rider section was a couple inches shorter, 15 in. instead of 17 in.

I've been thinking about handlebar risers for a while, so this is probably a good time to get them and see if they help.

So, even though I'm not sitting on the best part of the seat, it is still a big improvement.

I didn't get the usual numb butt saddle soreness I usually do riding that length of time and I didn't have to stand on the pegs to get relief.

This is a good, high quality, comfortable seat, but with seats, one size does not fit all. This one will be good for the majority of riders, though and overall, I'm happy with it.

Maybe in the future, Mustang will offer short rider versions with rider sections moved forward. Harley did exactly that several years ago.





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Thanks, that is a great breakdown, lots of info. I went ahead and ordered the Thruxton gel a couple of days ago, but this one is still in the running for an alternate seat for longer 2-up rides. It looks much more substantial for pillion riders. Also, your photos give me a much better idea of what it looks like. I know some on here aren't crazy about he appearance, but I think it looks pretty nice.
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