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Another factor seems to be the temperature
I.e if its cold your bleedy hands wont function correctly, and if it's hot the bleedy thing seems unwilling to turn, no matter who tries.
The most embarrasing thing, I've had to ask a mate to see if he could get it off. Thankfully he failed too, and then for that unexplainable reason, it came off for me (My mate, of course, said he must have loosened it)
Mine has now 'broken in', touch wood!, and hasn't dicked me arond for ages.
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It's a nice day for a ride....
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