Triumphrat

BP Green · 01-09-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cdubya

Yep. Well said.
I rode mine till there was nothing left....about 9,500 miles. They don't grip the best but that was when I was pushing them in the corners. The front definitely vibrated once it started cupping. No doubt, there are MUCH better performing tires out there. They are not possessed. The compound is just a bit lacking. The whole "Death Wing" thing is played out and not really too funny any more. If it's causing you consternation and you like a 80/20, 70/30 type tire, slap some Tourances or Anakee 2's on 'er and carry on.
Take care.
cdub

You must have posted while I was typing. That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks Cdubya...

cdubya · 01-09-2013, 10:48 AM

You got it Bravo Papa. Any time.

VodkaAndPickles · 01-09-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BP Green

Actually no, I haven't. Like said, I was only able to get a couple short rides in before the snow just to get a sense of the bike. I haven't even scratched the surface.

That's why I'm asking now. I'd rather learn from someone else's experience and switch them out now rather than have the bike slide out from under me while leaning into a corner or crossing a line in the road.

Basically I'm just trying to determine whether what I have read before really is a serious safety issue or just people verbalizing about a set of tires that just underperform. If the latter, I can live with that until they wear out. I hope that makes sense...

Wouldn't you feel the tires approaching their limit of adhesion as you lean further?

Like I said, the tires are not great by any means, and that's why I don't ride very aggressively right now. That being said, they're not so horrendous that they need immediate replacement, at least for me. I definitely won't replace them with the same, of course.

BP Green · 01-09-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by VodkaAndPickles

Wouldn't you feel the tires approaching their limit of adhesion as you lean further?

Like I said, the tires are not great by any means, and that's why I don't ride very aggressively right now. That being said, they're not so horrendous that they need immediate replacement, at least for me. I definitely won't replace them with the same, of course.

Again, I don't know whether I would or not because I don't have the experience to do so; either with the tires or the bike. I haven't ridden since I was in my twenties.

I appreciate sites like this because there is a wealth of experience to tap into. I'd rather ask a stupid question and learn something here than go out and make a costly or dangerous mistake on the street unnecessarily.

Thank you for sharing your experience.

LoVel · 01-09-2013, 03:08 PM

I agree with the earlier statement about the deathwing thing being overplayed. I have scraped pegs on my Scrambler several times and the bike never slipped in the process. I did slip when I rolled hard on the throttle on a right turn leaving a rolling stop sign.

They are knobbies. They aren't going to handles as well as 100% road tires but they are more than good enough.

I will change to something else when the time comes because I almost never leave the pavement. I was thinking about going with 100% road tires just because that is where I spend most of my time and they will last longer. Comparing knobbies to sport bike tires is not quite fair.

Have you ever driven a jeep with off road tires. In the rain they will lock up in a heart beat. If they knobs are big enough they will lock up in the dry if you are over aggressive.

If you are riding in the wet initiate braking with the back brake and be a little more careful. Don't be afraid of the front brake.

BP Green · 01-09-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoVel

I agree with the earlier statement about the deathwing thing being overplayed. I have scraped pegs on my Scrambler several times and the bike never slipped in the process. I did slip when I rolled hard on the throttle on a right turn leaving a rolling stop sign.

They are knobbies. They aren't going to handles as well as 100% road tires but they are more than good enough.

I will change to something else when the time comes because I almost never leave the pavement. I was thinking about going with 100% road tires just because that is where I spend most of my time and they will last longer. Comparing knobbies to sport bike tires is not quite fair.

Have you ever driven a jeep with off road tires. In the rain they will lock up in a heart beat. If they knobs are big enough they will lock up in the dry if you are over aggressive.

If you are riding in the wet initiate braking with the back brake and be a little more careful. Don't be afraid of the front brake.

Great info LoVel. That makes sense. Much appreciated!

dontpanic1971 · 01-09-2013, 04:21 PM

The compound on the stock tire seems pretty hard. I plan to replace mine prematurely, but I'm not in a huge hurry to do it. My reasons don't have as much to do with grip as with ride quality. I feel like a more supple tire will give my suspension (and kidneys) some much needed help. They're certainly squirrelly when pushed in the corners, but that doesn't bug me a whole lot. If I wanted a bike that cornered without limitation I would have bought a Speed Triple.

rodhotter · 01-09-2013, 07:16 PM

saving an accident with better tyres is cheaper for sure, depends how you ride, i noticed the stock metzlers on my 2012 bonnie traction rated at the bottom wear at the top, you get one or another, i will take traction anytime!!! could prevent you being in "traction"

Dan McGrath · 01-09-2013, 09:28 PM

I'm running Trail Wings on my T100, they work just fine. I found the stock Metzlers to be lousy....

Thrux181 · 01-10-2013, 09:28 AM

I could not hold lines with the stock tires. I use Avon Distanzia's and really like them.