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post #21 of 55 (permalink) Old 12-25-2012, 04:33 PM
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...properly mapped EFI can be far superior to most carbs...
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post #22 of 55 (permalink) Old 12-26-2012, 08:34 PM
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Check out the thread where the salesman tried to trash talk carbs. Look at the responses from both sides. Technology is great until it doesn't work. Ever have your smartphone crash or come up dead or with no bars? When is the last time a landline did that? Your E reader is nice, but a book only needs light enough to see the words to work.

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...EFI takes the human element out of it.

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In a blind taste test, I don't think most could tell the difference between the two tanks
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I checked out the side by side comparisons of the tanks and yea there is noticeable difference in size. That being said I think you would hard pressed to discern the difference when they aren't very close other than the slight ridge down the center of the carbbed tank.
Dog and I did a side by side taste test, (he brought it up), and though we weren't blind at the time, he remarked how svelte the carbed tank looks side by side with the EFI, and I had to agree.

Other than that, the best thing that can be said about carbed Bonnes is they usually work so well you forget you don't have all the mod cons.
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Its kind of like dare I say an oil discussion. Both have thier pros and cons and it comes down to personal preference. I like my EFI because it runs a lot smoother during large elevation gains in the mountains here but I also have carbed bikes and they are just as fun.
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Its far easier to tune EFI than carbs. Its quicker too as nothing needs to be dismantled for trial and error. If you can send an email you can load up a new map on your bike. The advent of free software has made F.I tuning as cheap, if not cheaper than carbs. Rejets, balancing and adjusting carbs take a certain level of mechanical skill to get right.

I came from a background of FI tuning turbo cars, I feel just as connected to my machine doing that as I do rebuilding carbs. Theres something satisfying about seeing the diagnosis displays on a screen, its like you are a surgeon and you are monitoring the bikes vital signs. It becomes a living breathing thing.

EFI will just be a nightmare if things start going wrong as new ECUs and injectors arent cheap.

After running a fair few of both carb'd and EFI bikes there isnt a fag papers difference between them.

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I guess with the right paint scheme you could make the EFI tank look a little slimmer.
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Here's a comparison of the tanks, carbed vs EFI:








Side-by-side I'm sure you can tell the difference if you take the time to notice, but it's a small difference IMO. I'd think that if most people were just handed a tank, they'd have a hard time telling which kind it was based on size alone.
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Side-by-side I'm sure you can tell the difference if you take the time to notice, but it's a small difference IMO. I'd think that if most people were just handed a tank, they'd have a hard time telling which kind it was based on size alone.
The second one meets the seat and the headstock better so I'll have that, which is it?
I have an EFi Thruxton and the tank is too small, I can't grip it under braking like I can with my R1 but I guess that's something you have to live with in the name of style.
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2007 top, 2010 bottom. Metal vs Plastic badges give it away.

Do you have the knee pads on your Thrux? I have them on my Bonnie, and when I ride my wife's w/out them I notice the difference. Not that it's anything I wouldn't get used to, but they do seem to help. Aesthetically they probably don't fit the Thrux as well though.
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