Triumphrat

beemerrich · 12-09-2012, 08:32 AM

We're well into the pepetuation of urban legend here.

There was no weakness in the original design. No one here has ever had (or knows anyone who's ever had) a failure of the Bonneville's rear hub that could be attributed to the design. Some people did notice, though, that the spokes broke at the bend rather than at the hub in cases of massive overstressing, including that due to accidents such as encounters with curbs or potholes that heavily damaged the wheel.

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Right. Which is why the bikes with steel wheels broke their spokes when hitting potholes but bikes with alloy rims didn't? What do you say to folks who had broken spokes with only normal riding and no catasrophic event to cause breakage? I believe you are creating your own urban legend here.

Fun trivia. The straight pull hubs are indeed a newer design and improved, but also weigh about a pound more than the bent spoke hubs. I've weighed both wheels and know this. Why Talon was able to shave weight and achieve straight pull hubs and Triumph added weight is unknown. Legend has it that Triumph apparently had different goals than Talon during execution of their respective designs...it appears there indeed was a second gunman behind the grassy knoll...

Regards,

--Rich

PAAS · 12-09-2012, 11:25 AM

And the Talon hub is a lot nicer to look at too and is a better match for the front hub. Whilst I never suffered any broken spokes in the 15,000 miles I was using the OEM rear wheel on my T100, I'm certainly glad I have the Talon hub with Thruxton rim I've been using since.

Flaco · 12-09-2012, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyRgr

(I may also have a set of rear spokes for sale if return postage is as expensive as I fear)

I would like to purchase the spokes from you if the price is right...

Please let me know via pm...

I will do the same...

Thank you,

Allin

grebmrof · 12-09-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tsmgguy

If this had been any kind of a problem at all, a DOT initiatied recall would have been issued long ago. There's been no such recall, anywhere in the world. The rear wheels on even the high mileage Bonnevilles are doing just fine.

I think you've drunk the koolaid...

tonupdave · 12-11-2012, 01:56 PM

Spoked wheels have been around for a long long time mostly with angled spokes and there have been many vehicals cars and bikes putting out far more horsepower than the Bonnie just look at sprint bikes and early racing cars with their side loading...The Triumph Bullitin says check your spokes pre. ride something we allways did in the old days..I do it when I check my tyre pressures.....
T.U.D.

Olhogrider · 12-11-2012, 11:50 PM

I have two sets of wheels. Old style and new. NO problems at all. Now where's my KoolAid?

tsmgguy · 12-12-2012, 07:16 PM

I stand corrected. It didn't take very long to find this:

http://car-and-safety.com/triumph-wheels.htm

I've been viewing these boards for almost as long as they've been around, but could not recall complaints/discussions about broken rear spokes before. I bought my 2003 T100 new and have not had the slightest problem.

PAAS · 12-13-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tsmgguy

I stand corrected. It didn't take very long to find this:

http://car-and-safety.com/triumph-wheels.htm

I've been viewing these boards for almost as long as they've been around, but could not recall complaints/discussions about broken rear spokes before. I bought my 2003 T100 new and have not had the slightest problem.

Like I said above, I didn't have any problems in 15k miles and I guess the vast majority of owners haven't either, but there have been enough instances of rear spoke breakages reported for it to be more than coincidence in my opinion. Triumph's response was to issue a service bulletin stating that the spokes should be checked before every ride. You could argue that you should do that anyway, but I don't believe they applied that advice to previous bikes they built that had spoked wheels and I'm not aware of problems with those bikes. It was a fudge (in my opinion).

grebmrof · 12-13-2012, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Olhogrider

I have two sets of wheels. Old style and new. NO problems at all. Now where's my KoolAid?

Yea, well my '01 Bonnie went 26K for me with no problems with spokes either, the chrome on the wheels was crap, but that is a different issue. I sold the '01 and a couple of years later bought a used '08 T100 with the straight pull spoked rear hub - which seems to be doing well. Wish I still had the '01, but my '08 runs even better.

tsmgguy: Thanks for the follow-up post and the reference, that is a good summary. I would think a search of this site and the Delphi forum would scare up threads on broken spokes.

PAAS · 12-14-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by grebmrof

I would think a search of this site and the Delphi forum would scare up threads on broken spokes.

Here you go - http://forums.delphiforums.com/New_B...msg=11577.1162