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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-07-2012, 12:16 AM
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Seems to be a pretty wide price gap there.

But, as a guy who's had a thing for Jeeps for a while a few comments:

Late mode JK Wranglers are actually not that bad and could even serve as daily transportation if needed. They are among the most impractical vehicles you can buy to be sure, but they are still strangely entertaining. In 2010 the interiors got a substantial improvement that made things nicer. And for 2012 they finally gained enough power from the new 3.6 V6 to actually get out of their own way.

If you have any thoughts that you'll actually run the thing off-road, the stock Rubicon package is great. If you're just looking for a convertible, don't bother. And if you think you want to build a serious rock crawler, you might as well start with a basic package as well since you'll be upgrading pretty much everything anyway. But for most people the Rubicon is plenty. Probably the most capable stock 4wd you can buy in the US.

The top is overly complicated. They don't have much room. They don't get very good mileage. They're slow (even with the new motor really). They don't handle or ride very good. And yet I'd still tell you to get one.

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post #12 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-07-2012, 04:46 AM
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If you've got snow on the way, get a chair. Back in the mists of time I had an Ex WD M20 BSA (Rigid/ girder) with a box on the side. Seldom had more fun on the road.

Just noticed Grand Prix 500 under me monicker, what's that?

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Get a Jeep. I've had several as well as several Miatas. Mrs. Irish and I love our Miata for trips and running around town. Great cars, however I miss my Jeep.

As mentioned the 1996 and earlier Jeeps have a Rube Goldberg top contraption, but the 1997 and later Jeeps are better. Also skip any 4 cylinder Jeep, the inline 6 motors are much more powerful and get just about the same fuel economy, which is not going to be good on either motor.
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If you've got snow on the way, get a chair. Back in the mists of time I had an Ex WD M20 BSA (Rigid/ girder) with a box on the side. Seldom had more fun on the road.

Just noticed Grand Prix 500 under me monicker, what's that?
GP 500 = category based on number of posts.
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That is sweet!!
Thank you... I've had a lot of fun with it...

But as the old adage goes... "How do you ruin a perfectly good motorcycle? Attach a sidecar to it" Has a real ring of truth to it... Totally changes the ride...

Not directed solely at d00dge but a general comment on having a "part time" Bonnie rig...

One of the "problems" with having a "part time" rig is that the steering effort with a stock Bonnie's steering geometry... It is not the greatest for having a hack attached. Hacks like "more" rake and trail (Speedmaster's & America's work great)... and the "problem" is made worse if you do mods to quicken the steering, such as moving the fork tubes up in the triple trees or put a Thruxton/18" front wheel on... Wider handle bars help with leverage... but then you have wide bars on when riding it on two wheels... Nothing too horrible... just something to keep in mind if you ever consider adding a sidecar...

If you set up a "dedicated" rig, there are triple tree mods available that will increase rake and trail, that along with the wider bars, gets the steering effort down to where it isn't an issue...
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If you were a kid... what would be the most fun?

- A Jeep... like every other kid in school...

- A sidecar...


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I'm still unclear as to the Why?

Is this so when you're wife is out with her GF's you can take your daughter with you, in something fun, as opposed to your back up cage?

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They don't have much room. They don't get very good mileage. They're slow (even with the new motor really). They don't handle or ride very good. And yet I'd still tell you to get one.
That also pretty much describes a Ural sidecar rig.

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