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Old 11-30-2012, 08:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is the stock Scrambler underpowered?

Hi folks,

I'm still mulling over which bike I should buy. I have seen a nice Scrambler. I see that they are quite a bit less powerful than the SE or T100. Is it very noticeably different and is it a problem?

If it is too weedy, are there many mods to put the power back up to SE/T100 territory?

Also, do the Arrow pipes make it go faster, or are they there for the noise value alone?

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Old 11-30-2012, 09:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi folks,

I'm still mulling over which bike I should buy. I have seen a nice Scrambler. I see that they are quite a bit less powerful than the SE or T100. Is it very noticeably different and is it a problem?

If it is too weedy, are there many mods to put the power back up to SE/T100 territory?

Also, do the Arrow pipes make it go faster, or are they there for the noise value alone?

All the best

Steve
The Scrambler has less hp at the top end than the Bonnies but makes more torque lower down the rev range.

I saw a comparison test of the Scrambler and T100 within the past year (can't remember where) and the Scrambler's 0-60 time was a couple of tenths faster than the Bonnie, but had a lower top speed.

The jist of the test was that the Scrambler was maybe a bit more satisfying at lower speeds. I hesitated in buying a Scrambler for a couple of years mostly due to the stock horsepower listed on paper. I have absolutely no regrets and enjoy it as much or more than any bike I've owned.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Quite a bit less powerful?! According to whom? I had a Bonneville and bought a Scrambler. In stock form the Bonnie reved faster but was less torquey than the Scram. As the old saying goes, you ride the torque and brag about the horsepower. Personally, I experienced many more similarities than differences in the two bikes. Neither are built to be high performance machines. However, you can do a lot with these engines to up the power if you are so inclined. That all depends on how much money, time and effort you want to spend.

I did a big bore, hotter cams, Zard exhaust and flatside carbs on my Scrambler. So yes, mine is not very "weedy". It is simply the most fun bike I've ever owned. Good luck with your choice. If you decide on a Scrambler I doubt if you will be disappointed.
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The Scrambler has plenty enough power to get you into trouble.

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Try test riding both the Scram and Bonnie back to back. When I did I found the Bonnie left me with a distinct feeling of 'meh', whereas the Scram I really enjoyed. So basically, no the Scrambler is not underpowered compared with the Bonnie - you would never notice it.
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The 270 motor feels more torquey but in truth it isnt more torquey.I dont know who tested and said a scram is quicker 0-60 that is out and out bs. Most guys that buy these bikes change some things on them any way so when all is said and done put the same cams and pipes on them and they will make about the same power.The 2 things that kill power on the scram are the high pipes that make a u-turn coming out the head and the stock pos cams.Besides for the crank timing both have the same parts inside the motor.The 270 is easyer to hook up on a dirt track do to the crank timing a 360 motor tends to give more wheel spin.
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The 270 motor feels more torquey but in truth it isnt more torquey.I dont know who tested and said a scram is quicker 0-60 that is out and out bs.
I remember reading it here: http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/model_eval...eScrambler.pdf
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