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11-27-2012, 09:36 AM
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New Bonneville in the works?
Saw something from Motorcycle News, about a new bonnevile
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...ew-mcn-nov-28/
Hope it has a bigger engine, upside down forks, etc
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11-27-2012, 09:49 AM
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I sorta hope it doesn't. Once the classic twin is "modernised" then it will lose some of its appeal. There is the Speed Triple etc if people want to go faster with better handling. A larger engine feels uneccessary for the type of motorcycle that it is. Every year companies go with larger engines to differentiate the next model from an earlier model but is this required for the classic twin market?
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11-27-2012, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Aussiematt
I sorta hope it doesn't. Once the classic twin is "modernised" then it will lose some of its appeal. There is the Speed Triple etc if people want to go faster with better handling. A larger engine feels uneccessary for the type of motorcycle that it is. Every year companies go with larger engines to differentiate the next model from an earlier model but is this required for the classic twin market?
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that is what i immediately thought. damn, the bonneville is brilliant.
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11-27-2012, 10:48 AM
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Looks like an X version of the Thruxton. A higher spec'd suspensioned Thruxy.
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11-27-2012, 12:12 PM
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In time, the market will become saturated with Bonnies as we know (and love) them. This new version will probably be produced alongside the modern classic line and may extend the life of the motor/chassis. Like the intro of the T100, America, Thruxton, Speedmaster, and Scrambler, this approach keeps a good idea at the fore...
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11-27-2012, 12:50 PM
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From a marketing standpoint, it does not make much sense to add a model between the Thruxton and the Thunderbird 1600.
/M
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11-27-2012, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro-Racer
From a marketing standpoint, it does not make much sense to add a model between the Thruxton and the Thunderbird 1600.
/M
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How can you be 'between' the Thruxton and Tbird? Do you mean on price? Because I can't see any other comparison point on the bikes. Their only similarity seems to be a parallel twin motor. One might as well say 'I don't see any reason to add a model between the Street Triple and the Trophy'. They both have triples, but after that the similarity ends...
I wouldn't mind a higher spec version of the Bonnie or Thruxton. But I don't believe they should replace the current spec for it. Some upgrades might be in order, but more than improving the performance of the standard models I'd rather see them hold the price point down.
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11-27-2012, 03:27 PM
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Kind of torn on this one. Where it would be nice to have a bonneville that didnt need all the normal upgrades right off the showroom floor, that is where I consider half of the fun owning my thruxton to be. All the tinkering and upgrading, but I know that is not everones thing.
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11-27-2012, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aussiematt
I sorta hope it doesn't. Once the classic twin is "modernised" then it will lose some of its appeal. There is the Speed Triple etc if people want to go faster with better handling. A larger engine feels uneccessary for the type of motorcycle that it is. Every year companies go with larger engines to differentiate the next model from an earlier model but is this required for the classic twin market?
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+1. If they can shave some weight that's great, otherwise let her be.
A pimped out Thrux with better suspension, etc, makes sense though. Say with the same engine, but lighter and meaner and special paint job.
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11-27-2012, 03:46 PM
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Part of the appeal of the Bonnie/Thrux/Scram is they are a blank canvas. Keep them dirt cheap so people can add on their own mods that suits their own riding style and budget. The HD Sportster is a similar concept - some people may ride them stock (imagine that...) but the fun is turning them into your own custom. That said, i expect its tempting for Triumph to differentiate the market with niche higher spec'ed versions
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