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11-25-2012, 09:33 AM
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Longer suspension for scrambler
Looking for longer shocks, what's needed, if anything, in terms of other mods to make them work? Will the center stand no longer function? Educate me please on longer shocks and fork improvements, thank you
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11-25-2012, 11:36 AM
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I did go for longer shocks on the Bonnie (365mm instead of 330mm) , because i am quite tall and i came from a sporty quind of bike , so sitting on this low bike (mag wheel) was strange for me.
Now i am changing the shocks again and i am going to only +10mm (Hagon's 2810) because i am used to the bike now. You have to forget about what you were riding before.
With the 365mm , the side stand was making the bike lean a lot on the side but wasn't a big deal. My body was slightly sliding forward the tank aswell.
I didn't touch the fork settings.
You going to have to think of something for the center stand for sure.
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11-25-2012, 12:10 PM
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Thank you - this is good info! please, keep it coming.
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11-26-2012, 02:09 PM
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I had 370mm Hagons and Ricors shocks on the Scrambler and there were no issues with handling at all. Centrestand still worked (just), but probably won't if you go any longer. Scram shocks are 360mm (IIRR), so adding 10mm is fine. Some folks say it sharpens the handling, I can't say I noticed that much.
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11-26-2012, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbo
I had 370mm Hagons and Ricors shocks on the Scrambler and there were no issues with handling at all. Centrestand still worked (just), but probably won't if you go any longer. Scram shocks are 360mm (IIRR), so adding 10mm is fine. Some folks say it sharpens the handling, I can't say I noticed that much.
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Thank you bobbo, I appreciate the info. Does anyone run ohlins shocks and if so, what length? As I read your feedback bobbo, I'd like to have the center stand (if I can get rid of the banging) so a 10mm increase might be just the right amount...
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11-27-2012, 03:53 AM
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I hear you with the centrestand banging - I just put up with it, but others have found that fitting stronger springs sorts it out.
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12-07-2012, 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbo
I hear you with the centrestand banging - I just put up with it, but others have found that fitting stronger springs sorts it out.
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Ok, I'll be looking into this over the winter. went over some light dirt road and the centerstand was annoying! Thanks again and if you have any links to posts with specifics, it sure would be appreciated!
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'11 BMW GSA, Ducati Paul Smart le, '10 Ducati Multi 1200s, '09 Triumph Bonneville Blk
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12-07-2012, 07:13 AM
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now thinking of works performance trackers shocks...
If you raise the rear 10mm don't you have to do something to the front to compensate?
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'78 BMW | Recreated | Black
'08 Triumph Scrambler adv
A few recent memories...
'11 BMW GSA, Ducati Paul Smart le, '10 Ducati Multi 1200s, '09 Triumph Bonneville Blk
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12-07-2012, 08:11 AM
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10mm rear boost is a pretty minor change in geometry. You probably won't notice a significant difference in handling. So no, you don't *need* to do anything to the front.
That said, if you're getting good shocks for the rear, you'll rapidly notice that the stock front end is pretty bad. At the minimum, get some weight-matched front springs, and get your sag set right. Playing with fork oil height/weight will help as well. Adding a cartridge emulator or intiminators will improve things another level. If you've got bucks, get cartridge inserts or do a CBR F4 cartridge transplant for the best ride available short of a full front-end replacement.
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12-16-2012, 03:07 PM
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Anyone use Ikon shocks? Heard some not so great feedback on the works performance units... thanks.
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'10 Ducati Monster 1100 s | abs
'78 BMW | Recreated | Black
'08 Triumph Scrambler adv
A few recent memories...
'11 BMW GSA, Ducati Paul Smart le, '10 Ducati Multi 1200s, '09 Triumph Bonneville Blk
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