Triumphrat

mr.broad · 11-19-2012, 04:39 AM

I Had TORS fitted to my new Bonnie after riding with the stock pipes for a couple of days. Good-bye Singer sewing machine; Hello British Twin! I don't know if the power gain is all in my head (specifically in my ears) or as a result of the bike freeing up, but one week and 1200kms later they sound bloody brilliant. Neighbours haven't complained about the bike idling (they are used the Termigonis I had on my previous Monster) but my God they sound great on the highway.

mike1161 · 11-19-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluesman77

If I did my research correctly, you have a Thruxton and, if so, the TORS are even more dramatic than those for the Bonneville. From what I've read, the Bonneville TORS are baffled whereas the Thruxton versions are straight though. Mine, along w/ the factory TORS map, really woke up the engine, sound wonderful - but aren't loud. I've received compliments on how mine sound from several friends who were quick to point out another friend's aftermarket mufflers on his T100, though a wonderful tone, are too loud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ognn-jlXgzs

That's not totally correct - I have the Bonneville versions of the TORS on my T100, and I can confirm that they are a straight-through design. You can see light all the way through the pipe. Not sure if there is any baffling, etc in there, but they don't have the maze of different chambers in there like the stockers.

billstokes · 11-19-2012, 02:29 PM

Norman Hydes will give you a deeper, more mellow sound. Last I saw, they cost just about the same as the TORS. The TORS really aren't much louder than the de-baffeled stock mufflers.

Finhook · 11-19-2012, 03:47 PM

Friend's T100 has the TORS, 2007, I think, and they have all but rotted off. I know they've been on there for a few years, but there's only 7000 kms on the bike, stored indoors, ridden at temperature, well maintained.

No drain plugs or holes on the underside, just rusted steel and peeling chrome.

Anyone else experienced this?

Nickwiz · 11-19-2012, 09:23 PM

Mrs Nickwiz Bonnie TORS have the same issue. I think its because they sit flat on the bike with no upsweep. So if moisture does get in there it doesn't drain down to the Downpipes but soaks into the wadding and sits in the pipe. My Thruxton TORs are angled up so I'm guessing the moisture drains down and gets burnt off by the heat from the down pipes.

Its also why Thruxton pipes sound a little louder. The Bonnie TORS have the kink in the pipe where they join the downpipes and the narrower tail exit pipe (if you have the old style ones) I think this baffles them slightly.

Canuck_T100 · 11-20-2012, 08:21 AM

Thinking about TORS myself. So there are 2 versions, the T100 straight shooters and the upswept version, part no. A9600382. I assume the A9600382 part is for both the SE/Base and the Thruxton?
Will the A9600382 TORS fit the T100 pipes and mount ok?
I've read so many muffler threads .....

cheeers!

rocket1964 · 11-22-2012, 02:59 PM

A very wet day in Scotland and i was unsure if I would get across the Forth Road bridge.

The day started off badly as I had not long left when my Oil light came on. I pulled over, did the switched off, tried again, still there. Checked oil, plenty, However the bike was showing no signs of engine trouble, no rattles or noises, no sign of impending doom. Just as i was about to call the AA the light went out. I rode 30 odd miles with no more problems. I asked the dealer to check it out and they could find nothing wrong.

I did have a thought, i was out on Sunday doing the last of the running in miles and the bike was black with all the dirt. So I gave the bike a real good wash and it was getting dark so i stuck it away into the garage. without the chance for it to dry off. I can only think this must have caused some form of issue with the oil light and with the engine warming up it dried up.

Anyway back to the TORS, i was a little worried after reading other posts that they might not be much of an improvement.

Well i am mega chuffed for me they are the perfect sound and volume, it has transformed the bike. A miserable heavy rain soaked ride home but the smile under my helmet was stretching around my head. They cost £318 fitted and mapped. Thats the best money I have ever spent.

I bought the Thruxton because of how it looks and the fact that it was a British company with a huge heritage that takes me back to my youth. Now it feels like the real deal, i never thought it would ever sound like those bikes I adored, now it not only has the look it has the sound. I am so delighted, what a bike, what a great bloody bike. Thank you Triumph.

bluesman77 · 11-23-2012, 12:06 PM

Sorry for the miscue Mike, I was going on what I read here a few months back that led me to believe they weren't straight-through. I'm curious, do you recall if the diameter is the same end to end? The Thruxton's are and it amazes me they aren't louder.

About 10 years ago, when I first started researching the "new" Bonnevilles, there was a lot written about the TORS being only a little louder than stock. I have a friend w/ a T100 that has TORS and they sound really healthy - I wonder if the design was made freer-flowing along the way?

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Originally Posted by mike1161

That's not totally correct - I have the Bonneville versions of the TORS on my T100, and I can confirm that they are a straight-through design. You can see light all the way through the pipe. Not sure if there is any baffling, etc in there, but they don't have the maze of different chambers in there like the stockers.

mike1161 · 11-29-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bluesman77

Sorry for the miscue Mike, I was going on what I read here a few months back that led me to believe they weren't straight-through. I'm curious, do you recall if the diameter is the same end to end? The Thruxton's are and it amazes me they aren't louder.

About 10 years ago, when I first started researching the "new" Bonnevilles, there was a lot written about the TORS being only a little louder than stock. I have a friend w/ a T100 that has TORS and they sound really healthy - I wonder if the design was made freer-flowing along the way?

No problem... I guess you mean the inner diameter? If so, it appears that they are the same diameter all the way through - that's just eyeballing it with a flashlight, looking in from the rear of the pipe. And I think the sound level is pretty much subjective to each person. I do notice a pretty significant different between stock and these TORs, but mostly when you really get on the throttle. Going real easy or steady cruising, it's not very loud at all. That being said, I wish they were just a bit louder, but I'm happy enough with them to keep (and I got a really good deal on mine since they were used). I agree with you that being straight-through, you'd think they would be louder - it must have to do with the inner diameter of the pipe. I think the really loud ones just have a really large ID on the pipe.

Canuck_T100 · 12-15-2012, 09:47 AM

Can anybody confirm if the upswept TORS, that would go on a Thruxton or Base model, would install directly on a T100?
Thinking of getting away from the straight T100 mufflers.

cheers!