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Old 11-01-2012, 12:04 PM   #21 (permalink)
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National Street Shield EX on Bonneville SE

Just got it mounted. I like the way it matches the lines of the forks.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:11 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Boy, have I wasted a lot of time on the windshield issue! I spent hours reading in the forums and other online sources, as well as thumbing through a few catalogs, trying to pick the best shield. I also bought and tried three in all. Hopefully others can save some time by hearing my experiences.

First I tried a Slip Streamer Spitfire, an inexpensive, great little shield I'd loved when I had one on my old Honda Nighthawk. A couple of reference guides indicated it'd fit on my Bonnie--NOPE, at least not at any angle that'd be useful, and with more than one thread holding it in place.

Next up was the Memphis Shades Hell Cat, recommended by a few folks on this forum. I thought it had pretty decent looks, and I got it at a good price from a local shop. I think this would've fit, but after an hour of fiddling with a tiny allen wrench trying to tighten the mounting brackets while they were upside down and in extremely tight quarters, I gave up--most especially because I realized, halfway through, that the top of the windshield was going to be right in my sight line.

Luckily, like Goldilocks, my third choice was "just right," at least for my purposes: the Dart flyscreen. I understand that it might not be the best choice for big-time long distance touring, but I've ridden a 3-hour round trip with it and been happy. Most of the time I can sit however I'd like and it diverts enough wind to keep me content. As others have said, your head is in the wind (this doesn't bother me because my Arai feels pretty aerodynamic and quiet) but the pressure is off your chest; I don't feel like I'm going to be torn off the bike anymore. In the occasional big gust or wind blast from a semi, if I tuck down even a little bit, it blocks lots of wind.

So at least until I plan a cross-country trip, the Dart is the screen for me--and I think a good choice for most Bonnie riders. Personally, I think it improves the look of the bike or at least is a neutral; I remember seeing this style of screen on Triumphs years ago, and to me it just looks "right" on the bike. I leave it on all the time. The super-easy installation is a plus, too.

For bigger screens, I think rider height has a lot to do with how much buffeting you feel. If I do plan a long trip, I'd probably try the Triumph summer screen, or, if I can tolerate the looks, one of the MRA vario-screens with the spoiler and adjustable angles.

Hope this helps somebody. A final thought--for whatever screen you get, try to be certain it is known to fit your *exact* year and model--sometimes even small variations in positions of lever mounts, mirrors, brake lines, etc. can mean the difference between fitting or not.
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Old 11-02-2012, 01:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If you have a windshield that buffets excessively, you may wish to try mounting some Vetter Snap Vents. These allow enough air into the low-pressure zone behind the shield to smooth the buffeting. They're only $37/pair delivered and a 3 1/4" holesaw and a little sandpaper is all you need to install them. They worked wonders on my Guzzi...
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Good option to know about, thanks for posting.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:01 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I have a Dart Flyscreen on my Bonni. I think it looks cool, not too expensive and it keeps some wind pressure off the chest. You can still feel some wind pressure in your face but it's not too bad. (I'm 184cm / 6,05 btw)

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Old 11-02-2012, 06:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I have a Parabellum Scout also but I continue to have severe buffeting. I have two different size screens. With the first, I can see over it by about 2 inches. With the second, it is slightly above my eyes. With both screens, I get buffeting above 70 MPH. My helmet is a Nolan. (I think it is an N43) I am 5'4" if it matters. Any suggestions?
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I have also tried a number of screens on my Bonnevulle. Triumph screen gave a lot of buffeting but no wind pressure on my chest. In the end just too noisy. It was expensive, will try to sell it on e bay. Next I tried an Emgo. Put it on, rode the bike, came home and took it off; nuff said. Will try to sell it on e bay. Next I bought a Dart. Super easy install, not too expensive. Nolan flip front helmet, ear plugs and Dart flyscreen provided a happy medium for me. Head in clean air, no buffeting. Enough deflection of air from the chest to eliminate the parachute effect of naked bike riding. And it looks way cool. Nothing is perfect (well my BMW K75RT was but a different animal) but the Dart flyscreen is the solution for me.
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I have a Parabellum Scout also but I continue to have severe buffeting. I have two different size screens. With the first, I can see over it by about 2 inches. With the second, it is slightly above my eyes. With both screens, I get buffeting above 70 MPH. My helmet is a Nolan. (I think it is an N43) I am 5'4" if it matters. Any suggestions?
This is the first complaint of buffeting with a Parabellum Scout that I've ever heard. Is the balance vent blocked? The still-air envelope does flatten out as you increase your speed, but this is normally "clean" air on fairings with an enhanced laminar effect (like your balance vent equipped Scout).

Some epic touring guys I've had the pleasure to know use Saeng Micro-Swirl Edging on their windshields to manage buffeting at high speeds. I have no personal experience with this product, but it looks cool and is an inexpensive modification. Whether your balance vent is blocked or not, you may wish to give it a try.
http://www.saeng.com/product.php?id=581&category=80
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On the Bonnie I had the Triumph Roadster. A pretty good shield. By removing 4 bolts in under 5 minutes it is off and the remaining hardware is well hidden. After a low speed spill I ordered a larger piece of plastic for better coverage. It was nearly perfect! I liked it so much that when I sold the bike I kept the screen. Unfortunately it doesn't fit the Scrambler. I may make some brackets for it if I feel ambitious.

For the Scram I got a Dart. It reduces most of the chest pressure but greatly increases the wind noise in the helmet. I removed it to verify. Yep, more noise, less pressure. It is not going to do anything for weather protection like the Roadster.
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I have a Parabellum Scout also but I continue to have severe buffeting. I have two different size screens. With the first, I can see over it by about 2 inches. With the second, it is slightly above my eyes. With both screens, I get buffeting above 70 MPH. My helmet is a Nolan. (I think it is an N43) I am 5'4" if it matters. Any suggestions?
I think the Dart might be a good choice for you--I am about 5' 7" and when I tuck down a bit the Dart protection gets noticeably better, so at 5' 4" I'm guessing the Dart would work well for you. It's never going to offer the full-on protection of a large screen, of course, but if your goal is reduced buffeting, it's a really good option. And, as I said before, IMO it looks like it was born on the bike.
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