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Papa Weeley · 11-26-2012, 03:27 PM

I thought I'd check back in now that I've gotten several 1 - 1 1/2 hour rides in with the new Neotec.
It was a little tighter than my RF-1100 at first, but the cheekpads are starting to get worn in, and it's pretty comfortable now. As I mentioned before, Shoeis just seem to fit my head better than other brands, and this one's no different.
I've had the bike up to 85-90, and I've felt almost no lift at all, which was pretty surprising to me. Even more surprising is the fact that it is by far the quietest helmet I've ever owned. That blew me away. I figured that with a modular, a lot of noise would be a necessary compromise. I couldn't have been more wrong.
There seems to be a huge difference in the volume of air flow through the vents over my RF, too, no doubt due in part to their positioning being more suited to the more upright position on the Bonnie. (The RF is made for sportsbikes, so the venting is different to accommodate the forward/clip-on body position). It's a minor, but still noticeable thing.
About the only downside I've experienced so far is that I seem to fumble a bit trying to depress the button that opens it, and that's hardly the fault of the helmet. Being my first modular, I'm still not quite used to that function, but have really appreciated it several times already, when stopping for gas, pulling to the side of the road to take in a view, or just in adjusting my gear.
I'm definitely giving it "two thumbs up".

eric nyc · 11-26-2012, 04:08 PM

Funny you should bring this thread back up, I was thinking about it the other day.

I've put a good 1000 miles in with the C3 over the last 2 months. I have to say, if I had it all to do over again I would NOT spend that much money on it. It's a very nice helmet and as it has broken in has become VERY comfortable, but a lot of the things I liked about it initially have started to be a problem. The pinlock visor, which was perfect early on, now has started to fog up pretty consistently with the colder weather. In addition, the sun visor fogs HORRIBLY when the visor is sealed, to the point where it is basically unusable since whatever "anti-fog" coating they have on it turns it into a weird wavy distorted mess when it starts to collect condensation. Crack the visor for a few seconds and it's fine, but at 90 mph that's not really an option.

Also, I was pulling the visor up at a light a few weeks ago and it just FLEW off, right into the road. Quickly stopped the bike, ran across a lane of traffic, and grabbed it before it got run over. But when I reattached it I noticed that the small plastic lever on one side of the mask that releases the visor from the hinge was completely gone.

I'm putting the bike up for the winter in a few weeks and when I do I'm sending the helmet into Schuberth to have the visor lock replaced as that is most definitely under warranty, but when I do I am also going to say something about the sun visor and see if there is something defective in the anti-fog coating.

Long story short, if I had paid $300 for it I would probably be perfectly content, broken visor repair aside, but for $700 I expect a lot more. Depending on what happens with the warranty/repair I probably will not be purchasing a Schuberth in the future.

dustinsleeping · 11-26-2012, 04:22 PM

I had the Bell Rally EVO Modular and while it was kinda cool for a while, the padding inside broke down really quickly and the helmet began to sit funny on my noggin, even going so far as the windshield would touch my nose sometimes. It got to be a pain in the ass so I just jettisoned it and went back to using a Bell Custom 500 with Halcyon MK49 goggles.

d.

Papa Weeley · 11-26-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eric nyc

Funny you should bring this thread back up, I was thinking about it the other day.

I've put a good 1000 miles in with the C3 over the last 2 months. I have to say, if I had it all to do over again I would NOT spend that much money on it. It's a very nice helmet and as it has broken in has become VERY comfortable, but a lot of the things I liked about it initially have started to be a problem. The pinlock visor, which was perfect early on, now has started to fog up pretty consistently with the colder weather. In addition, the sun visor fogs HORRIBLY when the visor is sealed, to the point where it is basically unusable since whatever "anti-fog" coating they have on it turns it into a weird wavy distorted mess when it starts to collect condensation. Crack the visor for a few seconds and it's fine, but at 90 mph that's not really an option.

Also, I was pulling the visor up at a light a few weeks ago and it just FLEW off, right into the road. Quickly stopped the bike, ran across a lane of traffic, and grabbed it before it got run over. But when I reattached it I noticed that the small plastic lever on one side of the mask that releases the visor from the hinge was completely gone.

I'm putting the bike up for the winter in a few weeks and when I do I'm sending the helmet into Schuberth to have the visor lock replaced as that is most definitely under warranty, but when I do I am also going to say something about the sun visor and see if there is something defective in the anti-fog coating.

Long story short, if I had paid $300 for it I would probably be perfectly content, broken visor repair aside, but for $700 I expect a lot more. Depending on what happens with the warranty/repair I probably will not be purchasing a Schuberth in the future.

Oh man, that's too bad. I never would have expected that after all the good I'd heard about them. I'm starting to feel really glad I got the Shoei!
Before I installed my pinlock, I had only gotten a very slight fogging once inside my outer shield while sitting still on a pretty cold morning, but the inner visor stayed perfectly clear, and once I moved 5 feet, the fogging was gone. Since the pinlock was slapped on, no problems like that, although to be honest I haven't ridden in weather that cold since.
So far, I'm definitely just as happy with it as I've been with all my other Shoeis.

Nickwiz · 11-26-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ruger

I've found them to be too heavy. The lighter the better in a crash.
A few years back my ER doctor told me that my neck would have fared better if I'd been wearing a beanie helmet. The facial cuts I'd avoided by wearing my Shoei full face would have healed up and I'd have had less whiplash.

He must be a Harley guy. He must also be completely nutso.

Actualy he has a good point. Heavy helmets transfer injuries to the spine in the event of an impact. My Father in Law retired doctor agrees.

eric nyc · 11-26-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickwiz

Actualy he has a good point. Heavy helmets transfer injuries to the spine in the event of an impact. My Father in Law retired doctor agrees.

So long as you don't land on your face, which more than half of high side wrecks end up in. But hell, as long as you're ok not having a jaw then I'm sure you're fine.

Sorry, I know that cycling is inherently dangerous, and everyone is welcome to take their own risks, but the suggestion that a beanie helmet is in ANY way safer than a full face helmet because of some hypotheticals is not only absurd but irresponsible to spread around the Internet. Can someone suppose a wreck where maybe someone would be better off with a lighter helmet? I'm sure. Would that be flagrantly untrue 99.9% of the time? I'd bet on it.

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plasma · 11-27-2012, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Weeley

I thought I'd check back in now that I've gotten several 1 - 1 1/2 hour rides in with the new Neotec.
It was a little tighter than my RF-1100 at first, but the cheekpads are starting to get worn in, and it's pretty comfortable now. As I mentioned before, Shoeis just seem to fit my head better than other brands, and this one's no different.
I've had the bike up to 85-90, and I've felt almost no lift at all, which was pretty surprising to me. Even more surprising is the fact that it is by far the quietest helmet I've ever owned. That blew me away. I figured that with a modular, a lot of noise would be a necessary compromise. I couldn't have been more wrong.
There seems to be a huge difference in the volume of air flow through the vents over my RF, too, no doubt due in part to their positioning being more suited to the more upright position on the Bonnie. (The RF is made for sportsbikes, so the venting is different to accommodate the forward/clip-on body position). It's a minor, but still noticeable thing.
About the only downside I've experienced so far is that I seem to fumble a bit trying to depress the button that opens it, and that's hardly the fault of the helmet. Being my first modular, I'm still not quite used to that function, but have really appreciated it several times already, when stopping for gas, pulling to the side of the road to take in a view, or just in adjusting my gear.
I'm definitely giving it "two thumbs up".

Very nice post, 10/10.

Plasma.

Papa Weeley · 11-27-2012, 03:52 PM

Thank you!

MikeinLA · 11-27-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eric nyc

Full face helmets can make me feel a bit claustrophobic so I've been doing a lot of research on modulars.

You need a Nolan N-43 Trilogy. I get a bit claustrophobic in my RF1000. Tried the Nolan and the face shield is HUGE. It's seriously like there is no face shield there at all. It's not a flip-up, but it is a modular. You can turn it into 6 different helmets. With/without chin bar or face shield, with a brim or without and it also has a flip down sun shield. Best helmet I've ever owned.

Mike

Nickwiz · 11-27-2012, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric nyc

So long as you don't land on your face, which more than half of high side wrecks end up in. But hell, as long as you're ok not having a jaw then I'm sure you're fine.

Sorry, I know that cycling is inherently dangerous, and everyone is welcome to take their own risks, but the suggestion that a beanie helmet is in ANY way safer than a full face helmet because of some hypotheticals is not only absurd but irresponsible to spread around the Internet. Can someone suppose a wreck where maybe someone would be better off with a lighter helmet? I'm sure. Would that be flagrantly untrue 99.9% of the time? I'd bet on it.

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No Beanie helmets are daft. But an Open face works well and in certain circumstances may be safer. as a city rider the extra peripheral vision and ability to sense whats around me is important and so on all but the coldest wettest days its my helmet of choice in the city. Plus I tested ut to destruction by bouncing my head off a curb and It did just fine. Still have a jaw bone

And no neck injury.