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Old 09-15-2012, 04:39 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Correct - the T100 is also 270
The T100 is 360

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I thought the Bonneville/T100/Thruxton were 360 and the Scrambler/America/Speedmaster were 270 ?
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Old 09-15-2012, 10:47 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The T100 is 360
Not according to Triumph.

The owners handbook state that the T100 is 270 along with the Scrambler. (could be a mis-print I guess ..)

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Old 09-15-2012, 01:10 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Not according to Triumph.

The owners handbook state that the T100 is 270 along with the Scrambler. (could be a mis-print I guess ..)
It is a misprint. see http://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk/...onneville-t100.
The T100 is definitely a 360 deg throw. The 270 deg bikes sound quite different and are ment to sound like a V-twin. The 270 deg bikes are the America, Speedmaster and Scrambler. The T100, Thruxton, Basic and SE are all 360 deg.

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Another point of confirmation is that 270 motors have 2 coils, & 360 motors have 1 coil.

I think Triumph got it very right with using the 270 motor in the Scram.

I personally favor the Scram over the Bonnie. And I like both.
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Old 09-16-2012, 05:58 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:13 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The 270 is more like a small block V8.
Similar to a 90 V twin. With Togas my Scrambler sounds more like my '72 Ducati 750GT than any other bike I've ridden.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:51 PM   #17 (permalink)
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On the legroom question, is it because of the higher seat, or are there some frame differences too?
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:26 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I had the base model 790cc Bonneville, which I bought new in 2004 and rode quite happlily until it was KIA in 2011. I replaced it with a low-mileage 2006 Scrambler, which I have since put a few thousand miles on.

Overall, I prefer the Scrambler. The most obvious reason is ergonomics - I'm 6'-3" tall, with long legs and the Scrambler just fits me better. Triumph says the seat on the Scram is 2" higher than the Bonneville and I'd say that feels about right. Also, the pegs on the Scram are about an inch lower than they are on the Bonneville, literally giving more legroom. The wider and slightly higher bars also contribute the the sense of "bigness" with the Scrambler, but of course that would be an easy thing to replicate on the Bonneville.

The 270 degree motor develops less peak power than the Bonneville (even the base 790cc version that I owned before) and its a noticeable difference. But since I don't do a lot of freeway riding or touring, its not really an issue. The big advantage with the Scrambler motor is the extra low-end torque compared to the Bonneville and this is more than fair trade-off for the kind of riding I do (canyon backroads and weaving through the LA traffic).
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You are correct. The 360 sounds like the Brit bikes of old. The 270 is more like a small block V8.
It's funny you should say that... Mrs. Irish has an America with the 270 crank and some nice pipes on it. I have often thought that when she romps down on the throttle it sounds like one of my old 5.0 Mustangs that I used to have.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the Triumph 270 motors sound more like a small block V8 than a Harley.
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So just out of curiosity, the "natural" usual shift point through the gears for me on my Bonny is about 5000 rpm. Same for the Scrambler?
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