Triumphrat

Nobby Plancton

Many people advised me to get the Air injection elimination kit for my 2005 T100. Now here's the thing, the kit has arrived and I have yet to fit it because I am having massive pangs of guilt about removing a device that lowers the emissions of my motorcycle.
Can anyone reassure me that in removing it I'm not doing terrible harm to the environment ? after all I'm a parent and consider myself to be reasonably green. I can already hear people laughing at this feeble eco notion from all over the world. Your thoughts gentlemen.

Charles Lathe

We just passed 40,000 miles on my 2010 T100 and I still have the air injectors installed. Allowing excess air into the exhaust helps burn any fuel leaving the cylinders. This allows the catalytic converters to do their job most effectively.

If you still have the stock exhaust, with its cats, the system may work better and leave a cleaner atmosphere for your kids if you leave the AI intact.

Triumph uses these on all it's bikes.

Regards, Chuck

Wheelhorse

I see you are in the UK, however, I'm uncertain if your model has catalytic converters being a 2005.

I will say this much, if you are truly worried about emissions, buy a newer fuel injected one.

There's a video on the net, from a Triumph rep, who spoke of reducing emissions by some 40% or some really strong number by moving to fuel injection and catalytic converters on the Bonneville. This article claims cough cough 500 percent.

it also increases fuel economy and decreases emissions by 500 percent.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/fi...#ixzz1yWhfL8KW

IF this is true, then I really don't know how you could sleep at night knowing your polluting 500 percent more than a newer modern classic...P.S. I'm joking.

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Maggie- '10 Bonnie SE; SAI, 02R, Dom. Touring, DNA Pods, TTP Tune #11 with Stage 1 ign., 36E's

PAAS

Your 05 bike doesn't have catalytic converters. My view is that in comparison to the ever increasing number of coal fired power stations in places like China, a few thousand Bonnies with their AI removed is of no significance at all. I understand that if we in the UK switched off all the lights and stopped emitting any CO2 at all, our total emissions would be replaced by China's increasing emissions within a year. I don't particularly blame the Chinese for this as it's largely caused by Western consumerism exporting its emissions to them. But let's not get too political!

As far as replacing your bike with a newer "cleaner" version, I feel this is largely bogus too. My understanding is that it takes more energy (and hence emissions) to make a bike (or car) than it will ever consume by being driven in its lifetime. If this is correct the greenest thing you can do is keep your old "dirty" bike running as efficiently as possible for as long as possible and resist the pressure to "upgrade" every few years. An electric car may have zero emissions at the point of use, but if the electricity used to charge it came from a coal fired power station it's hardly that green is it? Not to mention the environmental impact of the production of its batteries.

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Paul.

Herts. UK
Aubergine & White 05 T100 (865cc) with numerous mods.
(Previously Ducati Monster S4 and several UJMs)

GDCobra

If you feel so guilty why not get rid of the bike and walk or get a push bike?

When someone does something about people flying half way across Europe for a Stag night/Hen party or over to the States to do a days shopping or half way around the planet for an environmentalist meeting then I'll concede there may be a problem and feel guilty about running my bikes and cars. Won't stop me using them but I will feel pangs of guilt!

jimg010

MythBusters did show on motorcycles vs cars...so if you are really into cleaning up the environment you need to be driving a car and not motorcycles. It is only because emission technology has progressed a lot for cars and basically in the stone age for motorcycles.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/myth...nt-110928.html

prior

That may be true of Harleys and Triumphs with twins, but modern Japanese bikes are at the razors edge of power & emissions development, far in advance of any car manufacturers. I swear you could put your mouth over the exhaust of my mates 09 Ninja and breathe in the fumes, the inside of that exhaust after one year was spotless! zero carbon fouling.

Jim Mesthene

That just ain't so.
Back in 1994, SAAB did a stunt with the 9000 Turbo with the Trionic system. In London, on a day when the air quality was judged "unhealthful", they drove a 9000 around and measured the intake and exhaust. It was confirmed that the stuff coming out of the tailpipe had fewer pollutants than the stuff going in the air filter.....And they've improved since 1994.
I don't throw trash on the street, even if the street is already dirty. I don't defeat emission control devices (though I'm fully capable and qualified to do so) for the same reasons.

joncutt

I removed the AI and changed the mufflers, one of the things it immediately reminded me of was riding around on the back of my dad's bikes as a kid... 30 some years ago. It made a noticable difference in the smell and fumes coming out of the exhaust, reminding me of bikes before there was things like catalytic convertors and emissions regulation on engines. The AI removal is probably not contributing to the emissions smells, but it got my mind thinking about the bigger picture.

So yes, you are polluting more. As others have pointed out, it pales in comparison to power plants, manufacturing and large machinery, but you are without contributing to global warming more than it was with the AI.

That this concerns you is a good thing. Concern for the world you pass on, even on the small scale, is a good quality to have. What I would suggest in all seriousness is to find carbon offsets in your life to make back (and go beyond) the little bit more you're polluting having eliminated the AI on your bike.

Giant corporations are allowed this. The wealthy are allowed this. Hell, even Al Gore trumpets his carbon offsets.

Find other ways to pollute less that more than make up for the AI being gone. In it's way, searching for little ways to pollute less is as addicting as modding your bike. Once you do one little mod, you start thinking about the thing as a whole, and considering other little things you mods can do, and so on...

bikedog

Don't forget that bikes tend not to get stuck in traffic pumping out fumes and getting nowhere like cars, trucks and busses do.

Do what you like to your bike and go vegan, you will do more for the planet that way!