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Old 02-10-2009, 09:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all, only my 3rd post here, you can see my intro here:-

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk...ml#post1157805

And a couple of pics of my bike here:-

http://www.triumphrat.net/twins-talk...ml#post1158233

I've recently taken to the idea of recording on-bike video of some of my rides and run into the same problems that everybody else that has tried this has already discovered. Problems isolating the camera from vibration, problems with microphone selection and placement etc etc.

I'm still perfecting my methods and this first effort has been a learning experience mainly, as the results show, but I'm determined to perfect this art given time.

I've called this first video "Last blast through the canefields before the wet season sets in" for obvious reasons you'll recognise once you view the video.

I'm open to any suggestions from others you have been down this road before. Anyway that's enough from me - check out the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUaXguVBG30

Enjoy.

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Old 02-10-2009, 11:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thank you. Nice vids. I think your setup is pretty good.. I'm sure it will be better after some tweeking and experimenting.

Just out of curiosity, what mufflers/silencers are you running?
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you. Nice vids. I think your setup is pretty good.. I'm sure it will be better after some tweeking and experimenting.

Just out of curiosity, what mufflers/silencers are you running?
Thanks, yes some tweaking and experimenting to go yet. My camera was mounted in a hand made styrofoam box lined with 1/2" thick medium density foam and this box was lashed onto the handlebars with duct tape. The microphone was only a single channel clip-on collar mic clipped to the bottom lip of the seat at the rear and picked up the exhaust note quite well but also picked up all of the gear whine and chain and sprocket noise.

The whole setup was somewhat rudimentary so there's plenty of room for improvement. The only good bit I used was a Canon HF10 camera.

The mufflers used are just plain TOR's but they are just starting to "mature" in their tone after 10,000Klm's use.
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Old 02-10-2009, 12:41 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks Aussie...

Nice ride and glad your posted it!
Liked your other posts also...
Post on!

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picked up the exhaust note quite well but also picked up all of the gear whine and chain and sprocket noise.

The only good bit I used was a Canon HF10 camera.

The mufflers used are just plain TOR's but they are just starting to "mature" in their tone after 10,000Klm's use.
I didn't notice the gear whine until you pointed it out, and yes it is definitely there. A guy from California got some good sound for his vids by cliping the mike behind him (on his back I think) to get it out of the wind stream. He ended up with great exhaust sound.

Nice camera... I looked up the specs. However, the vid seems a bit blurred. Are you shooting through a wind screen? Or it might just be vibration, or the low transmission quality of the video. The heavy clouds didn't help either. I hope you get some nice days of riding in before the wet season.

Re the mufflers. You have helped make up my mind which to get once I pick up my T100 in a few weeks. The TORS have the sound I am looking for. Nice and throaty, but not obnoxiously loud.

Thanks again for posting.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I didn't notice the gear whine until you pointed it out, and yes it is definitely there. A guy from California got some good sound for his vids by cliping the mike behind him (on his back I think) to get it out of the wind stream. He ended up with great exhaust sound.

Nice camera... I looked up the specs. However, the vid seems a bit blurred. Are you shooting through a wind screen? Or it might just be vibration, or the low transmission quality of the video. The heavy clouds didn't help either. I hope you get some nice days of riding in before the wet season.

Re the mufflers. You have helped make up my mind which to get once I pick up my T100 in a few weeks. The TORS have the sound I am looking for. Nice and throaty, but not obnoxiously loud.

Thanks again for posting.
Easy...just be aware you will need the TORS for an '09 Bonny. There is a subtle change to the header interface. Another option are the TORS for the thuxton for '09. Somebody will have to double check the header part number to see if it is the same to allow interchangability. Upswept pipes look pretty nice on a Bonnie...see pic below.
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Loved the vid Aussie...thanks for posting. Looked like a great ride. Your bike sounds awesome and too love the sound of the TORS. Ride safe and thanks for sharing your ride with us.
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Thanks George for the tip about the 09 TORS being different. I didn't know that. I will check to make sure I get the right ones when the time comes.
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I didn't notice the gear whine until you pointed it out, and yes it is definitely there. A guy from California got some good sound for his vids by cliping the mike behind him (on his back I think) to get it out of the wind stream. He ended up with great exhaust sound.

Nice camera... I looked up the specs. However, the vid seems a bit blurred. Are you shooting through a wind screen? Or it might just be vibration, or the low transmission quality of the video. The heavy clouds didn't help either. I hope you get some nice days of riding in before the wet season.

Re the mufflers. You have helped make up my mind which to get once I pick up my T100 in a few weeks. The TORS have the sound I am looking for. Nice and throaty, but not obnoxiously loud.

Thanks again for posting.
Yes the video is quite blurred, it's caused by the vibration of the bike or more correctly my failure to isolate the camera from engine and road vibration. Most of the lower speed sections of that video were not useable due to harmonics causing video distortion. The darkness of the video is also the result of vibration, this can best be seen at the 5:42 mark as I'm accelerating up out of the dip you'll see the video darken once I go above certain rev. Of course the overcast weather didn't help either.

The video was originally recorded in full high definition (1920 x 1080) but has been reduced to 720 x 576 for uploading to Youtube where its resolution has been further reduced and each reduction in resolution seems to darken the image further. The camera was mounted behind the Dart flyscreen for protection from the weather and this also contributed to a reduction in image quality.

I have since purchased another microphone - stereo this time - and my intention is to try putting it in my jacket pocket or clipped to the lower edge of my jacket at the rear to see if I can avoid picking up so much transmission noise.

My next project is to make up some sort of mount for the camera that is a little less "temporary" than the styrofoam box and hopefully a little more successful at isolating vibration. The wet season is here now so there's little riding being done.

The TOR's are a compromise that works in my opinion, they are quiet enough when riding "normally" and yet will let out a satisfying bark when you gas it up a little. They are a little restrictive still if it's horsepower you are after but they do retain the appeal of original appearance. I have noticed that their tone is improving with age.

You can see the video in slightly higher resolution on the youtube site, search for user AussieT100
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Loved the vid Aussie...thanks for posting. Looked like a great ride. Your bike sounds awesome and too love the sound of the TORS. Ride safe and thanks for sharing your ride with us.
Thanks George. More to come for sure - soon as the weather co-operates.
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