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Hi guys. Triumph are doing a great job developing models in the different sectors (sports, sports/tourer, classic, trail etc..) but I'm patiently waiting for the replacement for the aging Trophy.

I want a bike to go touring 400 miles a day, light enough to throw around and more flexible than today's alternatives (Goldwings and the like). A medium weight bike to take on the BMW RT's, Honda Pan European etc..

Any other people in the same situation?


By the way, I don't see ANY attraction in the new "22" - it looks like a tractor looking for a field to plough.

Forza Triumph ! :-D

Shawn

The power cruisers sure are fun to ride!

But I wouldn't own one.

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Guys, I've just been told at my local dealer that the new Trophy wont be in the shops for 3 years! Apparantly everyother bike in the range is due to be reworked and new models released (22 and the 1300 Daytona) before they get around to the Trophy. Come on.....

By the way, for the tourers amongst you, take a look at the new Honda Pan European 1300, compare the weight with other bikes - its 40kgs less than my old '79 Honda CBX 6 !!

Reggie
I'm with you. I'd love to see Triumph putting out a serious tourer - maybe not a Goldwing equivalent, since they can't really compete with that, but competitive with the next level down - FJRs and Pan European. For me, if Triumph re-issue the T-bird sport I would love one of those, but after this I am definitely going for a tourer and I just hope Triumph has a good one out by then.
In terms of the 22 - you have again hit it spot on - this is a very ugly bike indeed. Plus, Triumph may have missed the market for this anyway, I don't know that power cruisers have that much more growth left. They were on the right track with the Bonnie America (a stylish cruiser) and maybe should have made a few engine options available on this rather than develop the 22.
Anyway, roll out the new Trophy - and let it be a serious tourer - not too heavy, great handling and not too sporty (so that us older guys with the creaking bones can actually last the 2 hours between fuel stops!)
Colin

Will

I dunno- my 42 year old knees hold up to a TT600 just fine. Just lucky, I guess. Anyway, I was considering the Sprint ST when I bought my bike. It has a fairly relaxed (for me, anyway) riding position. You can get hard bags for it, too. It is a bit more of a touring bike than the Honda VFR.

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Hey Colin, Will.
For me a tourer is three quarter / full fairing, good power, range and a civilised riding position. Flickable through swooping corners etc.. The Goldwing doesn't qualify. The old style 1986 BMW R1000RT and 1990 (?) Guzzi Spada 3 tourers were spot on. Today's tourers are too big and heavy limiting their usage to straight line riding. Please Triumph, create a dedicated full size but lightweight tourer not a cramped, dressed sports bike which is neither one nor the other.

Development costs are a limiting factor, so let Honda do the development - strip a Pan Euopean, reduce the weight chuck out what we dont need and call it a Triumph. Don't blush - Triumph was the target of copying all the way through the 50's and 60's!!

Will

Sounds good to me, Reggie. Turnabout is fair play! I hope they put together a full line of bikes in the next twenty years. Imagine- Triumph dirt bikes take the world motocross championship, Triumph takes the SBK crown, and the streets are filled with all sizes and shapes of Triumphs. OK, I'm dreaming...

Triumph has passed Ducati in market share in the USA now. BMW is next on the list. They need to make that touring bike (preferably with shaft drive). That will keep 'em growing.

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Yeah, but you know what my beef is? I'm too darn short! I really would like to see someone other than H-D come out with a touring bike that someone like me (5'7") could fit on! There I was at my dealer's open house: able to test drive any of the dozen bikes, including the Trophy. The only bike (other than my Legend) that I was able to sit on was the Bonneville America... and that's the only one that I drove that day. That's why when it comes time to buy another bike I hope that Triumph has something that I can put a leg over... even if it turns out to be the "22" behemoth.

Seems to me that Triumph would have a ready market if they just lowered the seat height a bit. But then again, if they did that, they likely would exceed Mr. Bloor's self-imposed limit of about 30,000 units per year....Jerry

coldnight

I am currently trying to buy a Sprint ST - my wife who is a little shorter then you are was able to stand over it without an issue... how much foot do you want to be able to put on the ground? The owner of the shop we were at has a 26" inseam - he rides everything he has in stock - including the tiger and and BMW 650 on/off road machine. Theres probably more machines you can ride, if you don't mind one-footing it. That can be a hard thing to want to do with someone else's bike though...

Keep having fun!
coldnight

Jerry, I'm 6'7" and can't fit on a Speed Triple 955i (my prefered bike), any Ducati and end up sittng on the seat ridge on BMW's - short legs sometimes have their benefits !!

Re taking over the world Will, I remember going to the Mallory Park (UK) race circuit back in the early '80's (ouch....) to watch the 'new' rotary Norton race team (all black bikes) and the public support and goodwill they received was total. I wonder, hope and trust that Triumph will one day get back into racing and find the same degree of public support. Come on guys, think of the glory.......

Anyway Will, cheered on by enthusiasm for the new Trophy, I just sent an email to John Bloor telling him to speed up the programme as you and I promise to buy one. OK?

Have a good weekend all, it's beautiful here in Switzerland this morning (Lake Geneva). Fire up that bike! :wink: