Triumphrat

12004 · 09-29-2006

I've only 20k on the Emarld Princess. I'm sure she will be between my legs for at least another 20k....

However...I just got the new Cycle World in the mail today, and the new Tiger is on the cover! WOW...Shes hot!. It's no Trophy, but I could see myself on a jet black 07' Tiger.

The other colors show how big it is. I only had time to breeze thru the pic's.

Food for thought...eh?

Cheers,
Tom.

trophyrider00 · 09-30-2006

It's been something I have been thinking about lately, what I would get if I sold the Trophy or wanted to add a second bike to the stable again. I know a lot of the guys in the Tiger forum aren't particularly happy about how the new Tiger looks and the direction they have taken the styling, but I think it is one sharp looking motorcycle. One of the complaints I have heard is about the Tiger being less off road capable, but in all honesty, I would never take that big thing off road.

The Triumph that has really piqued my interest though is the Scrambler.

MilwFreddy · 09-30-2006

I agree with you Scott, on both accounts. Went to the Triumph website and took a good look at the new Tiger. Personally, I like the look especially in black. That new Scrambler, complete with enduro tires is a truly bold move by the factory. I like it and if I had money for another bike I would think about buying either. Thing is it would be an additional bike because the Trophy is so good for my touring/driving and it has such a beautiful look I will not be parting ways with it for a long time.

Ride on---
Paul

Trophy1298 · 10-02-2006

Have not been on the new Tiger, but have put a few miles (on and offroad) on a 1998 and a 2000. I liked the Tiger offroad. Despite being heavy they were pretty surefooted. On the 2000 I followed a roadway being constructed. It was mostly dirt with several areas that were trails. There were no bridges inplace which led to a few stream crossings and one steep downhill rr track crossing followed by a steep uphill. I guess Triumph figured that less than 10% of Tigers were seeing offroad use so they went all street???

The Scrambler is one of my current favorite bikes. If I could spare the $$ I would have one. Are they really for offroad as the tires would suggest? The suspension does not look like it has much travel.

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trophyrider00 · 10-02-2006

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On 2006-10-02 12:47, Trophy1298 wrote:
Have not been on the new Tiger, but have put a few miles (on and offroad) on a 1998 and a 2000. I liked the Tiger offroad. Despite being heavy they were pretty surefooted. On the 2000 I followed a roadway being constructed. It was mostly dirt with several areas that were trails. There were no bridges inplace which led to a few stream crossings and one steep downhill rr track crossing followed by a steep uphill. I guess Triumph figured that less than 10% of Tigers were seeing offroad use so they went all street???

The Scrambler is one of my current favorite bikes. If I could spare the $$ I would have one. Are they really for offroad as the tires would suggest? The suspension does not look like it has much travel.

Just an observation, since I have not ridden either of the bikes off road, I would be more inclined to take the Scrambler off road, but not on some of the trails around here. The Tiger and the Scrambler are probably fun for tearing down fire roads and nice twin track trails, but for some of the tight parts of the Michigan Cross Country Cycle trail, no way would I want something that heavy.

Always amazed me seeing old pics of the Jack Pine Enduro with guys and gals racing on Harleys. I don't mean the little two strokes either, the full size Harley. I have ridden parts of the old race course and all I could think was no freakin' way I would do that on a road bike.

12004 · 10-04-2006

I took the Scrambler with all the cool parts on a 20 or so mile demo ride in may. We stayed on the roads around the shop in Janesville Wis. The bike is a really fun ride. It handles well and performs just like a retro re-make should.

Keep in mind...the original enduro winning Triumphs that the factory had Steve McQueen ride were actually very dirt worthy. They were also at LEAST 150lbs lighter than the new retro Scrambler.

I suppose the new bike would do ok on a gravel road. If however...you came across a muddy section, you would be wise to turn around. When your riding in the dirt, it's not if you drop the bike...It's when.
Besides...the bike is just too good looking to thrash it around.

Tooth · 10-10-2006

I believe that the original Tiger had an appeal to individuals who were 50% sure that they wanted tigers when they entered the show room. I am not sure that a non-Triumph loyalist would not be looking at the V-Strom 1000 or the Ducati Multistrata 1000. I do think that this change might actually be more appealing to Trophy owners and new people to Triumph than previous Tiger owners. It does not appear to be an off road bike but rather an urban adventurer.......If you look at the market place with FJR, BMW, ST1300 and now Kawa XR-14 Connie there is nothing in the Triumph lineup which even begins to be a starting point to compete with these 1200 plus touring rides......so Trophy owners it seems that we will only be able to look at the tiger or cruise with the Rocket to satisfy our touring needs if you are to stay loyal to the Union Jack. :asb:

12004 · 10-24-2006

Could not agree with you more, Tooth!

I just read up on the 08' Connie, Wow! That sucker should fly. Maybe...just maybe, Triumph will see this trend.

SuperSport Touring bikes DO sell.

The Sprint is cool, but that's about it. It's uncomfortable for everyone but the die hards.
I'ts the die hards AND everyone else, that are buying the FJR's the K12GT's and now the Connie 14.

One can only hope Triumph gets on the band wagon.

Cheers,
Tom.

Trophy1298 · 10-26-2006

After reading reports from people who have actually taken the Scrambler and talking to a few myself, I feel better about my plans to purchase one. Here is some of the info.

Scrambler Offroad

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12004 · 10-26-2006

WOW, Talk about a rave review!

Maybe my standards are bit too high? My KDX had 11" of travel and my KLR has 9".
As far as the Scrambler is concerned, we are talking about two completely different machines.
I wouldn't compare the two.
When I rode the Scrambler. I went by "feel". It "feels"a bit heavy and I did not work the suspension enough to make any kind of judgment.

One thing I know for sure...You will not regret owning one.

Cheers,
Tom.