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11-04-2012, 05:59 AM
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#21 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: Triumph Trophy 1200 T300E
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 32
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Originally Posted by KitNYC
... I assume you're talking about Daytona 1200 cams on a Trophy 1200? Or Super III cams on a 900? They sacrifice low end and midrange for top end; not great for a tourer. (The 900 Trophies and Daytonas use the same cams already.)
Cheers,
-Kit
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No, Daytona 1000 (only built approx 2 or 3 years in the early 90s). We've got few guys here, who did that already.
I assume, that here in mid of Germany the roads are not as they are in Texas. I'm mostly on short runs here in my region ... wonderful winding roads.
Have a look: http://vimeo.com/42270959
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11-05-2012, 12:00 AM
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#22 (permalink)
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Odd. Looking at the fiche, I see that the Daytona 1000/1200 use the same cams, but they're different from Trophy cams in most markets. The exception is Germany and "AU;" I don't know if that's Austria or Australia. Anyway, for whatever reason, DE and AU got the same cams in both Trophies and Daytonas from S/N 4902 to 9082, and they're different from both Trophy cams and Daytona cams in other markets.
At any rate, the "red" cams from a 4-cylinder Daytona are cut for more top end and give up some power low down to get it. I believe the same profile was used for the Super III. Cams should have a small dab of paint on the end to make them more readily identifiable: red for the hot cams, green for medium, and blue for the classic/cruiser line. I'd be curious to know what color the German ones from
4902 to 9082 are.
The part of Texas I live in is actually a lot like what your video shows, except with cattle guards and the occasional cow wandering along the road. It's one of the reasons I moved here. Any other part of Texas, though, and the roads are all very straight and boring. I've just returned from Houston, and I can't help but wonder why people bother to ride there!
Cheers,
-Kit
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11-07-2012, 02:46 AM
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#23 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 1998 Trophy 1200
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 62 Other Motorcycle: TS250
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Not that a new set of cams wouldn't be fun, when it comes to out right power I'm perfectly content with the bike stock. I ended up ordering 19/41 for gearing so we'll see how that treats me I suppose.
I'd love to have wilburs suspension and I'm sure it'd be a serious leap forward in suspension but it's not in the current budget. K&N filters...everyone has an opinion, mine is they aren't bad but ARE over priced. I'd rather just buy a new decent one every year or two.
Now the clearview....really considering the middle size, just trying to talk myself out of the cash to buy one.
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11-07-2012, 11:57 AM
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#24 (permalink)
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SuperStock Main Motorcycle: 2000 Triumph Trophy 1200
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Ridge, B.C. Canada
Posts: 240 Extra Motorcycle: 2010 Kawasaki KLR650
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K&N filters...everyone has an opinion, mine is they aren't bad but ARE over priced. I'd rather just buy a new decent one every year or two.
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I have to admit being a fan of K&N filters, using them in all of my vehicles for over 20 years, and considering that it is a one time buy not expensive in the long run. But in this instance, unless you love to really get into your bike replacing the filter in the Trophy is (to me) quite a job, so install the K&N and be done with it. Also Triumph does not sell a filter for the Trophy, it wants you to buy the whole air box unit which is nonsense.
I did install the K&N at the same time I installed Nology coils but noticed an immediate difference in response and power.
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Last edited by Doug Stanger; 11-07-2012 at 11:59 AM.
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11-07-2012, 01:32 PM
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#25 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: Triumph Trophy 1200 T300E
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KitNYC
Odd. Looking at the fiche, I see that the Daytona 1000/1200 use the same cams, but they're different from Trophy cams in most markets. The exception is Germany and "AU;" I don't know if that's Austria or Australia. Anyway, for whatever reason, DE and AU got the same cams in both Trophies and Daytonas from S/N 4902 to 9082, and they're different from both Trophy cams and Daytona cams in other markets.
At any rate, the "red" cams from a 4-cylinder Daytona are cut for more top end and give up some power low down to get it. I believe the same profile was used for the Super III. Cams should have a small dab of paint on the end to make them more readily identifiable: red for the hot cams, green for medium, and blue for the classic/cruiser line. I'd be curious to know what color the German ones from
4902 to 9082 are.
Cheers,
-Kit
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Hi Kit,
AU ist Australia, Austria is AT.
My tuner mate told me, that the 1st 1000-series has had another cam profile than the 1200 or SuperIII.
In case of my bike he additionally has to make some adjustments in ignition and a rejetting.
Because nearly all is already re-assembled, I cannot answer your question concerning the dab of paint at the cams - sorry!
I am very nosy about the results ...
Cheers, Heiko
Last edited by Klingone; 11-07-2012 at 01:52 PM.
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11-07-2012, 01:34 PM
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#26 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: Triumph Trophy 1200 T300E
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Germany
Posts: 32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TravisL
Now the clearview....really considering the middle size, just trying to talk myself out of the cash to buy one.
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I mounted the M size (with air vents). Much better, than the stock shields.
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11-09-2012, 09:48 AM
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#27 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 1998 Trophy 1200
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 62 Other Motorcycle: TS250
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The M size is what I'm heavily considering.
Turns out I already have a K&N filter so I'm good there.
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11-09-2012, 11:37 PM
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#28 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 125 Main Motorcycle: 1996 Trophy 900
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 38
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I've done a lot of mods, but I think the most bang for the buck was putting Hayabusa 6 piston calipers on the front. Much stronger and more controllable braking and very easy to install. 2nd would be the Racetech springs and fork oil change. The factory springs are way too spongy even when new. I've also done the Clearview shield, Corbin seat, heated grips, bar risers, etc. I also replaced the rear shock with a Hagon, though that wasn't so much an upgrade as a replacement for the worn out stocker.
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11-10-2012, 05:41 PM
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#29 (permalink)
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Grand Prix 250 Main Motorcycle: 1998 Trophy 1200
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Iowa
Posts: 62 Other Motorcycle: TS250
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I'm really considering the busa calipers and rebuilding my master cylinder, and a set of ebc HH pads....should take care of the stopping issues. I hate my front brakes more and more.....worst I've ever had on a bike. The dive doesn't bother so much as I just came off a dual sport but I wouldn't mind upgrading that later either. It's got new seals and oil now so I hate to not get some use out of them but we shall see.
I found out I already have a K&N filter so no need in buying one as this one is basically new.
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11-11-2012, 04:58 PM
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#30 (permalink)
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There's something wrong if those 4-pot Nissins are bad; they're really pretty decent brakes. That said, there's no arguing the stopping power of the Tokicos, especially with a good set of EBC HH pads.
Cheers,
-Kit
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