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Trophy Trophy 3 & 4 - for all 900 and 1200cc models 1991- 2004

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Old 10-23-2012, 10:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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1996 Triumph trophy, Plethora of questions

Hello all from windy Oklahoma City. Recently I traded off my 94 harley sportie for a 1996 Triumph Trophy. I had till then been a die hard cruiser fan, Amen I have been converted, I will never ever own anything but a triumph. I know this beastie has issues, but from what I can read its nothing that a lil elbow time cant fix.

When i received her I noticed right off that she had been droped but the damages were cosmetic at best. Shes got close to 60,000 miles on her, so I am pretty sure shes do for a valve service. right side foot rest panel is cracked ( the aluminium triangle mount piece) so I need one of those and both the fairing mounts are all tweaked so I'm pretty sure I need those. The fork seals leaked bad so I went ahead and over hauled them. The only nerve racking thing I'm chasing at the moment is for all intents and purposes a hop. I'll describe it and maybe you can help me properly diagnose it. when I first take off at around twentyish i develop this funny hop/lurching thing going, at first I wrote it off to the chain being so horrible (new one with sprockets arrive this week) then I though wheel balance so i did a real stupid but effective thing I pulled it up on its stand and ran it in to first, no jump. I grabed both front and rear wheels and shook the hell out of them no play in bearings. I do notice that the chain sounds crunchy when its under pressure, and yes Ive lubed the bejesus out of it. As a side note, I am pretty certain that Ive got a trophy with the alter shaft bolt issue, I used my stethoscope when I first got it to locate a rattle and from these forums and little asking around Im pretty sure I need to do that soon. lets see, oh heres a good one, some silly person mounted the front tire backwards (gotta take care of that saturday)

Okay I rambled about that, here is some just strait questions,
I want to rebuild/service my carbs, I know how to sync them but does any one have a proper parts list?

I want to remove my airbox and convert to cone filters, what would you suggest?

Ho do you tell if your front springs are upside down visually?

Can anyone guide me through properly serviceing the valves? this will be my first time dealing with shims?

Okay thats enough outta me, I know its alot guys, and I trully appreciate any info you can give me, this is my only vehicle for a while so i gotta keep it road worthy and try to keep the expensise low as possible.
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Old 10-24-2012, 01:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Maybe your chain has tight/loose spots in it? If its old they can do that.
www.motolab.com is a great place for the small parts carbs need,and cheaper then Triumph. At 60,000 miles you may be looking at slides and slide guides,check diaphrams as well.

For valve adj work you need a Haines manual,best to do it right.

EBAY has parts for these things,usually pretty cheap as there isnt a lot of demand.

Good luck with the new scoot! I worked on mine a bunch at first but it works great now,other then needing new coils.
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Pods on Mikunis are great, if you like tuning better than riding. Keep the airbox and all its pieces; it's a pain to remove, but it does its job really well. (And new rubbers will make it much easier to put in and take out.)

The airbox is designed to be disposable and scheduled for replacement every 24k. You can actually pull it apart and clean the filter with foam filter cleaner; it likes that every 12k, or maybe 6k in dusty/polluted areas. You can also get replacement filter elements from third parties, but that's a waste of money IMHO 'cause the box isn't designed to last and the third party filters either don't do a very good job (K&N) or are just like the factory filter (Pipercross).

I had a bad chain when I rode from NYC to ATX; I thought it was a fueling issue (I'm on an injected bike), but it turned out my "surging" was tight and loose spots in my chain. Nice being in a dry part of the country; I'm just now replacing that replacement chain, three and a half years and 36,000 miles later.

Any of the parts fiche you might see on eBay are violations of Triumph's copyright, and talking about that's a no-no in this forum. (We use copyrighted Triumph logos with permission and generally have a close relationship with Triumph, and would not want to jeopardize that. Bike Bandit has online fiche you can use, but they have BB part numbers instead of Triumph. Ling's in the UK, AKA World of Triumph, show you the Triumph part number in the shopping cart.

Springs work the same upside down as they do right side up.

Like Flattrack Loon says, get the Haynes manual. $35 well spent, and you can find it on eBay if Amazon's out of stock. "Triumph Triples and Fours" is the title.

Speaking of... Have you got a triple or a four?

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Old 10-25-2012, 01:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do you have Keihin carbs or Mikunis? I found jets & filters for my carbs (Keihin) @ a Harley(!) website. Quick service -- just don't say you're working on a Triumph! It's a case of ordering by part no. and quietly paying the bill.

I dropped my Trophy and broke some plastic (and the turn signal, of course). Found an exact replacement on E-bay, but I was extremely lucky there. About 1/2 the price of Bike Bandit for the new side panel.

Congrats on an excellent bike! And keep out of those g-awful dust storms. (I have a farm about 30 miles west of Blackwell).
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Old 11-01-2012, 12:05 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I was referring to used parts on eb*ay,they tend to have lots of chassis parts and all sorts of stuff on there for Trophys.
I finally found a used rear rack for my 1200 on there I could put my top box on the thing,very handy.
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Get a manual. It will show you pretty much all you need to know. As for the hop, I would think chain/sprocket first. Another possibility would be the fact that the front tire was mounted backwards maybe the belts are separating. As for valve adj, manual will guide you through it. It will call for a special tool to.compress the valves to remove the bucket and shims. I'm cheep, so I just remove the cams. Your local jap shop should have any shims you need. Some wil swap shims for free(shims don't wear out). Good luck and welcome to our world.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Like you I have also gone from HD to a Trophy 1200 . I found Ebay to be very good for any parts that I wanted. Mine is a 96 also and is a great bike to ride .
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