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03-12-2004, 02:15 AM
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Location: Bonney Lake Wa.
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I just put a set of gen-mar risers on my '02 Trophy. When I got my custom fitted seat in January it raised my backside up enough to put weight on my hands which got sore after awhile, now the risers bring my hands up enough to rotate the weight back onto the seat.
Quite a bit more comfortable and more of a three point seating position. Cost was $117., took four days to arrive and about 20 minutes to install. All I had to do was rotate the clutch and front brake levers down a little to get a more comfortable angle and relieve tension on the brake line, which was a little tighter than I'd like to see with the forks fully extended. Other than that a piece 'o ' cake and quite an improvement. :-g :lollol:
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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03-12-2004, 02:02 PM
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Site Supporter Formula Extreme Favourite Bike: 2000 Triumph Trophy 900
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Clio,Michigan
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I have been debating trying a set of Gen-Mars on my Trophy. The only thing I was wondering is if you have to alter the plastic covering on the handlebar. Does the cover go back on okay or do you have to trim it back?
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03-12-2004, 04:18 PM
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you do have to trim it back and I haven't done mine yet, but it looks like you can follow the contour around the raised part and be pretty close. There's a picture around somewhere that shows one done and it looks like it came that way from Triumph.
.You'll want to rotate the brake master cylinder down as well to get a little slack in the brake line. It's my understanding that the brake lines are braided stainless with a plastic sheath over them so they should take a little tension ok. with the bike on it's wheels and with me sitting on it there's plenty of slack. With the bike on the centerstand and the front wheel off the ground the line is not tight, but it's didn't have alot more play left.
All the other wires and cables have plenty of play left, and the bike feels more comfortable so I'd recomend them if you want the bars higher. To get an idea how they feel while your riding just make a fist and rest your hands on top of the grips, that's about the new position. :-g
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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03-12-2004, 07:06 PM
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Thanks Steve, that answers some questions I was wondering about.
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03-14-2004, 04:57 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: York, England.
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Just a thought Stevent, now that you are sat in a more upright position, have you found any increase in wind noise of buffeting ?
Andy
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03-14-2004, 11:00 AM
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Andy, it seems to be a little quieter, I always wear ear plugs because of the noise, but in the new position it's tolerable w/o.
One proof is that with ear plugs it brought the wind noise down to a dull roar but I couldn't hear anything else. Now with ear plugs I can hear the wind, but I can also hear the bikes exhaust and tire noise from other vehicales around me, still a background roar but muted enough to isolate and identify other sounds
. This is at around 75 mph or so. I'm 6'1 and I wear a Shoei RF900, bear in mind that my bikes seat is not stock so I maybe sitting a little higher but you get the general idea. I hadn't noticed any buffeting or back pressure either way.
As I said they're a pretty good deal, if you get them in conjuction with a fitted seat it makes a noticable differance in comfort. :-g :lollol:
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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03-15-2004, 10:23 AM
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Hey Steve,
been ruminating about the risers myself. Think I'll go ahead.
could you talk about the seat a little bit. What did you get and how is it different.
I don't mind the OEM seat. It's comfortable and because I'm short, it lets me almost plant my feet. So I'd be worried about anything that raises my crotch any higher.
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03-15-2004, 11:35 PM
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The seat is the standard base with the foam reshaped to fit my backside, then the sides are built up to form more of a saddle shape, then a gel pad is added and the whole seat is recoverd with black leather with my initials and some stitching added.
It was made by Rich's Custom Upholstry in Seattle. They're on the web and they do mail ins if you're unable to get in for a fitting. Basic cost is $350, then add $100 for leather and stitching + tax..
While I was in there another guy was getting the seat lowered and reshaped on an R100RS so they can go either way..If you just wanted your seat recovered in leather there's probably some place local that does it, or you could ship it out. :-g :-)
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stevent....."May the Goddess turn the hearts of those who hate us, if not their hearts then turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limping..."
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03-16-2004, 12:55 AM
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My two cents. The GenMars are great. I got mine at AZMotrosports.com on clearance for $80. (Apparently a dealer that gave up on Triumphs.) The plastic cover does not go back on the top clamp (I have a 2001 Trophy 1200).
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03-16-2004, 03:54 AM
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I also just installed a set of GenMar risers on my 2000 Trophy. They were easy to install, although I decided to lower the fork tubes just a bit to where I think GenMar believed they should have been. At the original height of the tubes, the bottom set screw in the GenMar clamp barely caught the top of the fork tube, and that's didn't seem kosher. I only have to lower them about 1/8 inch, which if anything helped the handling. Also, I don't think the GenMar setup is quite as strong as original, and would have preferred them to make a new cap for the forks that included the extension, rather than just supply a bushing, but realize most owners wouldn't want to have to change the cap. Lastly, the brake line was long enough, but just. rather than rotate the master cylinder down, I slightly loosened the line and rotated it to be directly in line with the fork tube, and that gave me the slack I felt was necessary. If you have a helper keep pressure on the brake lever (so a bit of fluid will drip out when you loosen it), you won't get air in the line. Just do it quick and keep constant pressure on the lever. Just loosen it a tad enough to rotate it and then tighten right back up. The problem I had was the choke cable was too short, and would pull the choke on a full right steering lock. When cold, engine speed would increase. When warm, it killed the engine. Unnerving the first time it happened. I slightly rerouted the cable and stopped it, but had to remove the tank for that so more than a 20 minute job in the end.
But as for comfort, they are great. My arms are a bit short so the stock bars had always been painful after a while. Now, it's great. I also added a +2" Clearview replacement windscreen at the same time, and the wind noise is a lot less. Still a bit of buffeting, but only a little, and overall the noise is way less. And it's much thicker than the stock screen, and clearer if you need to look through it.
Overall these two mods really improved the bike for me.
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