Triumphrat

why II

I picked up a 98 16,000 mile Trophy 1200 in July and got all of the fairings off to see what "reality" was underneath and it wasn't too bad. Started cleaning up and noticed a bunch of gravel and rocks around the front sprocket area which I expected. I get the same with my black Bonnie because of one short dirt road leaving my house.
Anyway, according to Haynes, to pull off the cover over the sprocket I've got to go through the side-stand bracket which is held on with the left rear lower engine bolt. A large bolt, T55 torx, and torqued to 95nm. This process is much easier on the Bonneville but what the heck I cleaning and learning anyway. So I go to break this bolt loose and it's really tight. It starts to move but really never loosens up. After I rotate the bolt about 360 degrees I'm figuring I'd better quit because it's probably mis-threaded and I might not be able to get it back in. Or I could break it off. Really don't want that.
Questions:
Is this a fairly long bolt? Should it be this snug? Wouldn't someone know they are threading it wrong because of the resistance? Pneumatic tool putting it back on?
So what would be the approach to fixing this? How might I back this out safely?

Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.

Warren

andrewb

There's a nut on the back side of that torx bolt...just sayin'

Are you changing sprockets or just taking it apart to clean it up?

why II

Thanks.
I reached back as far as I could during this process but didn't find the back end of the bolt. I'll dig deeper.
It has a torque setting with a bolt on the back?
Also having little adventures getting this bike up. I have a lift but I guess I need to rig something to stay clear of the exhaust.
I also need to pull the front wheel and forks.
Anyway, I was just inspecting and cleaning. Does that cover need a gasket?

Thanks again....
Warren

curiousmike

You don't have to do any of that.

You're talking about pulling off the sprocket cover, right?

If you're careful and patient, just back that bolt out ( 8mm ) as far as you can before it hits the shifter.

Then, rock the shifter as far forward or backward as you can, and wriggle that bolt out.

I've had my sprocket cover off about 10 times now working thru oil-leaks ( seal behind sprocket, seal around clutch pushrod ).

Once you have the 3 bolts around the clutch pushrod off, and the 3 bolts holding the cover on, pull the cover outwards as far as you can, careful not to mash it into the shifter.
There are 2 dowels that keep the cover aligned onto the engine.

This may be related to this thread:
http://www.triumphrat.net/trophy/118...03-trophy.html

In particular, the red/green arrows on this photo.

why II

Thanks Mike.

Very helpful. It didn't look like there was a gasket on the cover. Haynes must have been referring to the earlier Trophys. I'll get into it this weekend. And I still want to find the nut on that T55 bolt.

Working on my Bonneville and now the Trophy could never have happened for me without this RAT forum.
Thanks to you all.

why II

So I went digging with flashlight and mirrors to find the back side of the torx bolt and couldn't locate it. Given exhaust cross over and swing arm stuff it's tough getting a look. And there is a fair amount of gunk on things down there. But I looked hard.
Is that torx bolt nut indicated by Mike's blue arrow covered with something? I don't have a Triumph Trophy manual but will call my dealer today for ordering one.

Thanks for guidance with this.

curiousmike

There is no gasket on the cover anywhere; even the dealers microfiche incorrectly say this.

Look for the Haynes manual; i think I ordered mine thru amazon.

camo2

WHYII,

I just pulled the motor on the 99 I'm parting out. To get at that nut you have to go from underneath the bike and get at it with a cresent wrench going between the shock spring and the shock dog bones. I think it was a 17 mm. Might have been a 19. There's a small opening that you can get to it by. I imagine it will be twice the fun getting it back on. I didn't have to deal with that.

Craig.

why II

Craig,
I was thinking of contacting you about this. Thanks for the info.

I'll have to figure out how to get this bike UP higher than the center stand takes it. I've got a lift that works great on the Bonneville because it misses all of the exhaust plumbing but the headers on the Trophy drop lower than the bottom of the engine. I'll build some kind of gig for it most likely.
I'll take Mike's approach first.

Did you sell that engine yet?

why2

camo2

You can get to it on the center stand (that's how I worked on the tear down) but I did have the belly pan and entire exhaust system off to help me out Yes, I've got the motor sold to a member here. Waiting for the check to clear and it will be on its way to OKC to get a Trophy back on the road.