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Old 04-29-2007   #11 (permalink)
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I loaned my first bike to my brother. We went to a parking lot to show him how to ride it. He dumped it a got a bit of road rash. He would have been much better on the 125cc bikes at the MSF course.

This was one of my biggest regrets. I let my brother get hurt. Plus he felt so bad for wrecking my bike...

It's not worth it. Loan him your gear so he can take the MSF coarse.

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Old 04-29-2007   #12 (permalink)
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Just from your first question" I've got this friend, right? Are you asking us if he really is your friend? My friends riding my bike is like letting them ride my wife, do I get to ride theirs too? Is theirs as pretty and did they work as hard to get theirs? Shouldn't they go get their own? Isn't there a place they can go test ride one? Good Luck!
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Old 04-29-2007   #13 (permalink)
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Old 04-29-2007   #14 (permalink)
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Get him to buy an old CB350F, something cheap and nimble from a local club member, and sign up for a course. After the course is done then a little escorting around to get some hours in traffic.
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Among very old friends with whom I've been riding with for many years, we do, on occasion, swap motorcycles for the purpose of testing different models and brands. One of our biggest rules is no racing and no "beating" of a bike that is not yours. Note that I said that everyone that participates in this are ALL VERY experienced riders. If you want to get to that point with your friend, steer him in the right direction to start riding...MSF course, plus... at least a years worth of experience on a used bike of his own.
The best advise you can give him about riding is this... There are only two kinds of people who ride...those who have fallen off and those who haven't fallen off yet. The former FAR OUTNUMBER the latter, so ALWAYS dress for the crash and not the ride!

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Old 04-29-2007   #16 (permalink)
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On 2007-04-28 22:27, sweatmachine wrote:
keep your friend at least 3' away from your bonnie at all times. I mean, don't even let him sit on it.

Come on baby, let's play a little game I like to call "just the tip in."

We all know it doesn't stop there. I agree, MSF or get his own freakin bike.
No one has commented on this one yet? I know everyone smiled an evil little personal smile that has tried to play that game. :lgh:
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I bought a Honda Rebel 250 for friends who want to learn. One friend also took the MSF course, got a license, the other dropped it once, broke a collar bone, decided no more of that. At this time, no one is using it, so I'm selling it.

I won't let less experienced riders on my Bonnie, although I have a very experienced friend and riding buddy who has three very nice bikes, Ducati Monster, BMW K1200R, and Honda Interceptor, and he and I swap back and forth sometimes.

I don't have a problem with letting experienced friends ride my bike. I'm fully insured too, BUT I have not done the kind of extensive customization that some of you have, so I'm not so heavily invested in it.
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I've let my Dad ride my bike, and I've taught my brother some basics (clutch operation, braking, etc...) in parking lots. He plans to take the MSF course too, but he's never even driven a manual car, so I'm trying to get him familiar with how the controls work.

I have no problem letting any experienced rider take my bonnie out. You break it, you buy it.
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I might let an experianced rider try my bonny black, with the idea that if it gets damaged, I wont get upset about it.
If you would get upset, dont let anyone ride it.

I let my son ride the 69 daytona in the dirt as a first time, he did ok. I have gone down at speed on that bike without breaking anything, so its cool.

I dont want to ride any one elses street bike, I WILL ride their dirt or street/dirt bike, (scrambler not included).

No one should learn to ride on anything than a worthless bike, and if you was to ask me, no one should get on the street untill they are poor to fair at motocross.
Dirt riding is some of the best practice for when things go wrong on the street.

3 people on the rat crashed this week, expect more this summer, its a new rider thing...

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I agree that starting in the dirt is best, in the 1981 hurt study (last I checked there still hasn't been another one conducted) backs that dirt riders fair better on the road:
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More than half of the accident-involved motorcycle riders had less than 5 months experience on the accident motorcycle, although the total street riding experience was almost 3 years. Motorcycle riders with dirt bike experience are significantly underrepresented in the accident data.
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I've let friends with little or no riding experience take my past dirtbikes for a spin. Friends that I trust I have no problems swapping keys with them if I feel comfortable with there riding, and we both know the "You break it, you bought it." Also small bore vintage Japanese bikes make great starter bikes, a sub 400cc cafe racer can teach untold amounts about riding fast, you are forced to learn how to carry speed and use body English. I generally feel people learning to ride should start on an old under powered bike, you are forced to learn basic maintenance on the bike, they are cheap to buy and fix, there isn't 100hp on tap to get you into trouble, and if it get totaled you are not out tons of money.
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