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Motorboy · 10-28-2006

I have two sidehacks,, a small rig and a Jumbo for trips and I love them both as much as my two wheelers,,, Safety wise the most impotant things are 1: a correctly setup rig and 2: a book or someone to explain the dynamics of a sidehack BEFORE you hit the road..... After a few minutes of practice some people have it down pat,,,,,,other take a lot longer......Sorta like driving on the other side of the road in Europe...

A poorly setup rig is very dangerious and even an expert can have big trouble on one.....A balanced rig is a joy !

stevent · 10-28-2006

I'd like to have a Ural w/ side car. I think the PTO for the sidecar wheel would be a blast in the dirt or snow.

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ssjones · 10-28-2006

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On 2006-10-26 21:26, Big_Rick wrote:
very similar to this one on ebay

I saw that one, it only had about 400 miles on the odometer. I wonder if the bike is too underpowered to pull that weight & passenger? That side hack has to weigh at least 150 lbs and have the aerodynamics of a brick.

SmokinJoe · 10-28-2006

Where in New England is that rig for sale? Might be worth a ride to check it out

4Triumph · 10-29-2006

Second Wind BMW Triumph in New Hampshire has the bike, if you stop in ask for David and tell him that Wayne said hello and sent you. Great people! I miss them, moved to NY from NH.

http://www.secondwindbmw.com/

[ This message was edited by: 4Triumph on 2006-10-28 23:19 ]

SCbonneville · 10-29-2006

<I saw that one, it only had about 400 miles on the odometer. I wonder if the bike is too underpowered to pull that weight & passenger? That side hack has to weigh at least 150 lbs and have the aerodynamics of a brick.>
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A Bonnie will pull a hack , no problem. A "light" rig weigh about 200 lbs.

My rig weighs in at the 200 lbs mark and with my two daughter and me on board.. I'd hate to tell you what the GVW is... it will run down the freeway at 70 to 75 mph all day long...

Driving a rig is TOTALLY different than anything you can imagine!! I had the vision of how cool it would be to go "jaunting" down the road... Classic looking rig... Just be boping along... Well... let me tell you... Steering is ALL arms... The trail and rake of the Bonnie is not optimum for a rig... on gentle sweeping bends it's not to bad... Twisty mountain roads.. You're in for a work out...

I still like my rig and it serves its' purpose well... But I run vastly more miles with it off than on the Bonnie...

One of the criteria I looked at when selecting a rig was can you and how easily you can attached'dettach the rig..

The Spyder hooks up in 30, 35 minutes and comes off in about 25...

Check out my pics in members albums, "S", in the SCbonneville folder..

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bovefrankj · 10-29-2006

A sidecar outfit drives completely differently to a solo bike. I tried one once and covered 10miles. It was enough. Never been on one since. Each to their own. I think the word is - try before you buy.

russerts · 10-30-2006

I haven't piloted a sidehack, but I've ridden in one. My dad told me it was the scariest thing in the world, and some 25 years later when I did it, I found out he was RIGHT!!!!

It's just wrong - asymmetrical thrust, out in the wind with no protection and no controls.

I guess it's one form of excitement, though!

GleaminTwin · 02-04-2008

I guess if you were thinking of going on a motorcycle vacation on backroads and you were gonna take your wife/girlfriend and your dog too, and a lot of luggage it would actually be pretty suitable, although you'd have to take back roads because you probably couldn't (also wouldn't want to) go faster than 60 mph with all that stuff attached. I'm gonna head out for a week long trip this summer with my wife and pooch but I'll have her take the car with the pooch and I'll ride the bike. Then when we get there, about a day's ride, we'll do day trips on the bike. If I had the sidecar, wouldn't need to take the car, but I don't know if a sidecar would work with the Scrambler's high exhaust, and besides, I have storage issues as it is, plus not an unlimited amount of cash to spend on curiosity type motorcycle ideas, still though I am pretty nerdy, so I could see myself piloting a sidecar hack with my wife and pug in tow heading out for a week in the finger lakes. Anyway, good luck to the sidecar hack pilots, you are innovators and adventurers, I salute you.

uzidzit · 02-04-2008

a Bonnie with a chair added will make a pretty pooor rig. If you re do the front end with a leading link, and good brakes, and have the rear brake linked to the hack it becomes a great outfit. but forget riding it as a solo bike. the last one I helped build was sweet but a job to get right

sputnik side car
RIII master cyl.
linked brake on the car with a slave cyl from the rear brake
front axle relocated foward with leading axle plates.
relocated front brake and four pot caliper
17/44 gearing
steering damper
relaced stock wheels with heavy steel NOT stainless steel spokes.
chen cheng square profile tires
5" wider bars.

This was a wonderful rig that handled right and would not work you over as the trail was at 0, and the car wheel was about 10" foward of the rear axle.

Harley has done rigs or offered hacks as an option since day one and has never figured out that the car axle has to be set foward to keep them stable in the left hand turns. The last Harley rig (1999) I drove was suicidal in left hand turns ( it plowed the car really badly)

The post '05 ural rigs are very well set up and handle correctly, and are reliable! rember if you look at a gearup or a patrol, you cannot use the two wheel drive on the road only on gravel grass or other loose surfaces. also these outfits are taller than the tourist, and have a slower maximum safe speed, with the higher cg.