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02-04-2008
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Minitwins
Join Date: Feb 2008
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TT600 technical question
I was trying to make some adjustments to my TT's ht leads yesterday when i discovered it had no HT leads but actually had 2 electrical cables going into an electrical box connection. Can someone tell me if this is the norm and what the benefits of this are. Also does anyone know where i can get racing fairing lowers in 2001 yellow as i would like to move the indicators onto the mirrors as my current left indicator and fairing are totally knackered.
Cheers in advance for any assistance.
Scott.
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02-04-2008
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SuperStock Favorite Bike: 00 TT600 Red/Silver
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shorewood, IL
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I don't know what an HT lead is.
As for fairings, you can find race fairings on ebay occasionally, they always seem to be yellow strangely enough. Otherwise, you can get them from Hotbodies still, but they are proud of them. Same with Jack Lilley, if you can even still get them from him.
As for lowers, they aren't a bolt on conversion, they're a new 2 piece upper/lower system that includes a belly catch pan. Mine won't work with the kickstand on, but that may not be true of all of them. Also, there is no provision for the headlight, it must be cut out to be used for street. I think hotbodies used to have a 'street' upper, but it's been a while since I looked.
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02-04-2008
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Site Supporter Team Owner Favorite Bike: Very fast 675
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HT is high tension, like your spark plug wires. I don't understand the question, though. Are you looking at the ECU? It is the bike's brains, and nothing works without it. Otherwise, I am lost by your post.
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02-04-2008
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Minitwins
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Any vehicles HT leads that i've seen are normally single core cables that terminate directly into the sparkplug caps which is normally part of the lead. In the TT however the cable actually terminates into the spark plug cap via an electrical box connection and the lead itself consists of two wires, thus the lead and the spark plug cap are actually two seperate things. I wanted to put a small device in the HT lead which improved the spark and sounded like a good idea but because of the design of the HT leads on the TT i cant do this. I have never seen this design of HT lead and wanted to know if this was the norm on the TT or if this was a modification on my bike and what possible benefit this design has over the normal single core one piece HT lead.
I hope this makes my question clear and would greatly appreciate any comments on this.
Thanks.
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02-04-2008
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I am really lost now! There is no distributor, if that's what you are asking about. The coils are at the spark plugs, not somewhere else as in oder machines. I wouldn't mess with the system, personally.
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02-05-2008
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Ah, I see. HT leads are spark plug wires? You wanted to attach something to the spark plug wires to enhance the spark? I know not of such a device.
The cap coil system should provide all the spark your bike will ever need. All stock, all good. Quite possibly the only part of the bike I've never heard anyone complain about.
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02-05-2008
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Minitwins
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You've hit the nail on the head Will, the coils are on the plugs so there are no HT leads. I'd not seen this before so was flummoxed.
As a little background as it would seem i've managed to confuse everyone. At the bike show in London i came across a little device that splices into the spark plug lead and creates 5 smaller sparks at the plug instead of one large spark. The figures and demos all showed this to be kinder to the plug and create a more powerfull and efficient burn. Being the curious type i am i wanted to try it out to see if there was any difference but the coil on plug system of the TT had other ideas. Ah well.
As for the Race bodywork, has anybody fitted this and discovered it fits terribly or does it work quite well for general use.
Thanks all and sorry if the whole HT lead debacle has confused!!!
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02-05-2008
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No problem! Resolved confusion is educational for all of us.
Race plastic almost never fits quite like OEM, but Skidmarx and Sharkskinz come pretty close. Catalyst Composites are also good if they make anything for TT600s. There was a European company that made color integral plastic, but I don't remember their name and heard they were out of business anyway. If you want a show bike, race plastic isn't the best way to go, but for functional, durable plastic, it is great. Because it is fiberglass, it is a bit tougher and lighter than stock ABS in my experience. It may resonate and rattle a bit, if that bothers you.
A real bonus for using race plastic is where the seams are. It is a whole lot easier to remove and replace the one piece race lowers than OEM. The uppers come down farther, so you have to remove the uppers to do some things, but it typically isn't a big deal either.
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02-05-2008
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Sharkskinz... I kept saying hotbodies. That was never right. Hotbodies didn't make anything for the tt, I'm sorry. I must have confused myself with my former life of trying to source products for the GSXR 600 I never had. Sharkskinz did make a street upper that wouldn't require cutting out the headlight.
I have a set of A-body, bodywork. They don't' make a ton of the stuff, but it is pretty good quality, lightweight and inexpensive. I paid 280 for my complete set years ago, but it is difficult to find the company anymore. I lucked with a google search that brought up an odd reference on someone's ebay add for gsxr/r6/cbr bodywork. Lucky find for me, they were right in Chicago.
As for fit, they usually start by making a positive from the original work, and then a negative from that shape. The outside shape and size are probably spot on, but the race plastic is about 3/16 to 1/4 inch thinner, if not more, so ultimately none of the holes fit too well.
Neatly enough, you could still see the imprint from the philips head screws they used to fill the original mounting holes when they made the negative. Kinda neat, you knew exactly where to drill.
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02-05-2008
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Minitwins
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cheers for the replies guys. think i will just have to do a cost to benefit evaluation. i'm certainly not worried about a show bike, the bike is to be ridden how the handling allows, not to be stared at. ideally i'd keep the oem cockpit but we'll see.
Did wonder about the hotbodies sugestion, was guessing that a porn site wouldn't do TT bodywork!!
Thanks again for the help.
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