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Old 07-04-2007, 12:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I bought a Tuneboy and when I went to pick it up, the cycle shop hooked me up to there computer and downloaded the Jardine map into my bike. It runs really well and my last track day, it rocked.

I must say that I have not done the homework to do any mapping myself.

The guy at the shop never opened the Tuneboy I purchased. He just appeared to download the new map from his computer. I know that I purchased some kind of "code" in addition to my Tuneboy packet to enable the ECU changes, but I don't know from where the technician retrieved it.

My question(s) is this; why wouldn't I just sell the brand new Tuneboy sitting here on my desk now that my bike is mapped properly? Can another person use this package or is it registered like Microsoft does to prevent multiple users? Where did the technician get my "code"? A number of programs can be downloaded from Tuneboy's website; are these the same programs that are on the disc I paid $400 for?

I really appreciate an explanation.

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Old 07-04-2007, 01:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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There is an unlock code specific to your ECU. The shop used the cable and unlock code to download the map. You can sell the cable, but the unlock code won't work for any bike but yours. If anyone ever changes the mapping, or you find a better code, you will need the cable to reinstall or install the new one. It is your choice. My old cable went to another Triumph rider who used it with his bike, but he had to buy an unlock code.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:11 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply Will.

So the disc is generic in nature and not specific to any manufacturer or model, but the cable is specific to the D675 and the Key Code has to be purchased for each individual bike.

Am I correct in that the downloads on the Tuneboy site:

http://www.tuneboy.com.au/Support/Download.html

are free and are the same as the files on the disc I purchased? If this is correct, then customers are essentially paying $400 for a $20 cable and a $40 key code? How can an individual purchase and unlock code to his bike?

I'm I missing something here? I'm still confused.

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It is a little confusing. The maps are Triumph maps. I don't know where Wayne got them, but they are the stock maps. He doesn't charge you to download them.

You buy a cable for a certain amount of money. I don't remember what the exact number is. It plugs into the USB port (or parallel port for an older cable) on the back of your computer and into the connector on any bike it fits. The same cable can be used on dozens of bikes if you have dozens of bikes to plug it into.

You also buy an unlock code for each specific ECU you want to communicate with. I don't remember whether the diagnostic functions work without an unlock code or not. I know for a fact the mapping functions don't work without an unlock code. Once you have the code, you put it into the right place on the program and it allows you to load maps, modify maps, etc however you want in one specific ECU. If the ECU fails, you need to get another unlock code for the next ECU. If you get another bike with a different ECU, you need another unlock code, but no new cable. If you move the same ECU from one bike to another, the unlock code will still work on the same ECU.

The software itself is a download Wayne doesn't charge for.

I hope that clarifies things a bit. I agree it isn't at all easy to untangle until you have been messing with it for a while. Unlike a Power Commander, you can't just move from one identical bike to another, but also unlike a Power Commander, you can go from a TT600 to a Sprint ST to a Daytona 675 to an S3 without needing all new hardware. You would just buy unlock codes for each of the new ECUs.
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