Triumphrat

LOWEY · 01-22-2006, 04:15 PM

Finished fitting my ermax undertray this afternoon :razz:

Next weekend hope to fit my new power commander.

Installation looks easy enough but can anyone tell me if its possible to use the maps that are available for the tt600? :???:

Only there is only one map available other than a standard map for the speed four. this may be fine because it is for a tweaked bike.

I have a blue flame race can and K & N air filter and have replaced the sparkplugs with irridium ones-dunno if they make a difference? :???:

Should i just go to a power commander specialist and have it optimised? is it worth the expense?

Advice appreciated, thanks.

hinkleyboy · 01-22-2006, 04:55 PM

cant you go on the powercomander web site and download maps into it??

LOWEY · 01-22-2006, 05:15 PM

Yes i can go onto power commander website and download map.

But there is only 1 map for the s4!!!!!

Thats why i wondered if maps for the tt600 would work? :???:

I know that they are similar but think the fueling may be different? thats why wondered if anyone had any experiences?

Or from what i have read 90% of riders will be happy with the set-up that can be downloaded from website and wont need to get it optimised by a specialist, but this is also an option.

just want advice, anyone with experience of fitting one and was it worth it? :???:

hinkleyboy · 01-22-2006, 06:09 PM

i don't think the tt600 settings would help as they have some different engine internals like the cams so as to produce more power higher up the range than the s4

Rik · 01-22-2006, 08:16 PM

TT600 maps won't be any good to you as the fuelling is indeed different.

If you have the money then best thing to do is get it set up on a dyno

ezride · 01-22-2006, 10:39 PM

As a first try, you might as well try the one that's on the site. Nothing to lose; if you don't like it go back to the stock tune. Might help too if you can find out who made it and contact them.

Let us know how you make out with the PC. Don't know how your S4 runs with the blue flame pipe, but the Triumph tt600 race pipe gives mine (and most others) fits down low.

gladgd · 01-23-2006, 05:10 AM

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On 2006-01-22 20:39, ezride wrote:
As a first try, you might as well try the one that's on the site. Nothing to lose; if you don't like it go back to the stock tune.

My limited understanding of engine tuning leads me to think that's not the case at all. If the fuelling on the map you run is too lean for the engine you can cause quite extensive damage through internals getting too hot. Taking it to a specialist would be the correct option with the customisations Lowey's done, or so I would have thought.

Just as an alarm should be considered as part of the purchase price of a new bike, so I think Lowey should consider the setup as part of the PC purchase price.

Greg

ezride · 01-24-2006, 02:05 AM

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My limited understanding of engine tuning leads me to think that's not the case at all. If the fuelling on the map you run is too lean for the engine you can cause quite extensive damage through internals getting too hot. Taking it to a specialist would be the correct option with the customisations Lowey's done, or so I would have thought.

True enough; definitely a dyno developed map is best (plus, you can tune it for whay YOU like). Finding and contacting the author would go a long way toward giving me some confidence -- could be bubba playin' with his laptop or a dealer/race shop who has custom mapped a track bike using a dyno and ega. My bet is a map on the PC web side is probably closer to the latter.

I assume Lowey found the map on PC's web site (there's one listed for a Two Bros slip on, which is probably pretty close to a Blue Flame pipe for flow and backpressure).

I'm not sure where the maps on PC's site come from, but it's hard to believe they would just post 'any old map'. User submitted maps seem to be listed separately. If it were me, I'd download the map, look at what kind of fueling bias is in it (you can do that with a PC, right?), and give it a shot if it didn't look weird (like leaner than stock).

Will · 01-24-2006, 10:48 AM

My guess is that aftermarket maps are going to be a bit richer than factory maps, since aftermarket maps are most likely unconcerned with things like noise and emissions.

LOWEY · 01-25-2006, 06:02 AM

Thanks for the advice guy's.

Could not wait for the weekend a mate has fitted the power commander for me. He done alot of the work on my ermax undertray also.

Since fitting the power commander though the engine management light will not go out :???:

Any ideas??????????????????????????????

My local Triumph dealer told me if i fitted a power commander to my bike NOT to bring it to them for any work needing doing. they were not interested so im presuming they wont be very helpful if i go asking for advice. :razz:

[ This message was edited by: LOWEY on 2006-01-26 16:01 ]