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Old 12-13-2012, 01:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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daytona 600 starting and clock issue

ok guys, im not on here often enough which i apologise for, but i do need some help, i had a very low speed spill on ice the other day (stupid i know but thats something else) the bike is rideable, runs perfectly fine etc and has been used once or twice since. however today (it IS -1 outside) the bike wont start properly, i can hear the relay clicking quite loudly but theres no attempt to start, i charged the battery on the optimate, and after a 30 min charge it fired, i ran the bike for 5-10 mins, turned it off and now it wont start again, this is the first time this has ever happened, and also the clocks keep turning themselves off, occasionally displaying no speed and sometimes just flickering, im guessing its all linked as it started at the same time, i also have a video which i have made which MAY help.....

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Old 12-13-2012, 03:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like a power problem or bad earth connection from that video clip.
Is the battery getting a good charge from the alternator/stator ?
Time for some multi meter testing i'd say
That fast clicking sounds like the starter struggling with low voltage,same with the clocks but bad earth could also tribute to that.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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as far as i can tell the battery has been fine, its never had any noticeable charging or power issues before and as said, its a very recent problem, how would i go about testing the stator? ive never really done much to the triumph, the old bandit was far easier to screw about with
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Old 12-13-2012, 05:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So...multimeter time!
Read this thread:
http://www.triumphrat.net/speed-trip...r-upgrade.html

It would balso be good to check the earth point on the engine block. You will have to take the tank off for this as well. Jut follow the large black lead from the negative terminal off the battery. I also found that the bolt that held this connection at the engine was shorter than the thread in the block, and the threads strip very easily (common problem!). I just got a longer bolt!

hopefully this will get you started and find the problem. D'Ecosse is a great wealth of information on this forum and may chime in!
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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ok ive tested the battery as per the three tests outlined in that thread, on the thrid test, the battery is holding an exactly 12v charge whilst running, even whilst revs are increased/decreased, im going to let in run for a while and see what the results are, but im guessing this is a charging system fault?
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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after being left to warm volts had dropped to 11.8 but when revved would go up to 12.2v if this helps anyone in saying yes its a charging issue for definite
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sounds like the beginnings of a charging issue, how old is the battery? The flashing clock is defiantly the battery not holding a charge to provide enough juice to the clock.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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not 100% on the age of the battery but ive used the optimate on it to determine its charge quality etc. and its all coming back fine, battery has been perfect for ages, though the flashing clock thing has been intermittent for probably about 2 months, but never this bad, only usually once in a blue moon, which is it more likely to be? stator or reg rec? and where is the reg rec located on these bikes?
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I have a little video on it.
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:57 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I enjoy your little videos ('cept when you're hunting wabbits in your valves!!)....nice visual guides go a long way.
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