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Triumph SuperSports Triumph Four-Cylinder Enthusists: TT600, Speed4, and Daytona 600/650

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Old 07-17-2012, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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D650 Upgrade Help

Hey Everyone! this is my first post in here , so well see how it goes.

SO ive had a d650 for about a year now and i look at it everyday (im sure we all do) and think what i can do to make it look so much better. So i came with a small list of what to get for the look.

What i need help with your recommendation of where to get the parts since its pretty hard here in the US.

HID- ive looked and i saw that DDM tuning has some priced well (55w, 6000k, hi/lo, h4 (not fully sure if thats the correct bulb type)

Fender eliminator - jsut cut the plastic piece myself

LED turn signals- The font one i need help finding a good one that are bright (found some on ebay but not sure if itll fit). the rear i was thinking of a dual kinda (breaklight/turn signal)

Front turn signal
Rear Turn/break light

Some LED lights around the bike to make it shine- (need help deciding what color to get that would go well with the yellow bike)

Small license plate holder- Something that looks good.


SOOOO... thats the list of the things to make it look sexyerrr

Now heres the part that i really need help with.

I decided that i want to make it faster so i want to do engine work to it so i need help with what to do to it and where to get the items.
Im talking about like piston, valves, cam, jets.

I just dont know where to get it and what would be the right thing to get.

I hope you guys/girls can help me with this project im looking to do myself.




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Old 07-17-2012, 10:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I wouldn't worry too much about upping the horsepower if it's getting used mostly on the street. There aren't a lot of speed parts for it anyway. Putting a different can on it to make it sound good is really an aesthetic thing, and I'll admit I nearly always do it. It won't make more power and might make a little less. Upgrading suspension parts is a good place to start, and just rebuilding the forks and shock will make a world of difference in how the bike feels and handles.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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1. eBayx20 for blinkers and HID (30 for H4 HID). Make sure you get Bi-Xenon that pushes itself out and pulls in halfway. I have had the Chinese 'crap' and it has served me well!

2. If you have any questions, try posting them on this thread: http://www.triumphrat.net/triumph-su...-you-bike.html
There are a bunch of guys/gals subscribed to it with D600's/D650's that will get email notifications of your question(s). Also check out Varment's awesome mirrors with LED's in them, for that added sexy meets safety look!

3. I don't know about a license plate holder, but a cool frame is always.... well... cool! I had a Seattle frame but went to NY recently and picked up a Triumph NY frame. Now as soon as the light turns green..... I HONK AT THE IDIOT THAT HAD TO THINK IN FRONT OF ME BEFORE HE WENT! (look up NY minute on urban dictionary if you are ever extremely bored).

4. Faster? It goes 0-60 in like 3.5 seconds.... you have quicker acceleration than 95% of everything else on the road! If you want to go faster, get a 675. That's 25 more cc's of RAW power!!!!!!!!!!!!

5. Nice bike! Have you added these photos to the Daytona pics thread yet?
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Going -1+1 on your sprockets will give you the most bang for the buck acceleration-wise....that is, unless you really need the 150+mph top end??...and if you want more acceleration, then it's also wise to get better deceleration....better brakes, in other words.

Competition Werkes do an "assimilator" for the tail-lights if you want to keep the stock rear lights....I've also heard of people achieving the same thing with a trailer light housing adapter.
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My experience with shortening the gearing on a TT600 is that it increased its ability to accelerated AND increased the top speed. So, that's an excellent suggestion for a performance enhancement. One thing to remember is that the speedo on a D6 is run off the ecu by a calculation, unlike a TT600 or S4 which runs off the front hub. That makes the speedo more reliable - no magnet to break - but it will be inaccurate if you change the gearing and don't reprogram the ecu either with TuneBoy or TuneECU or some external device.
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Really??.....That's interesting.....how do you think it increased top speed, allowed it to reach red-line in 6th??....what was standard gearing, 16/45 like the early Daytona 600??

You're correct about the speedo.....mine reads approx 8% fast with the -1+1 set-up....or about 2% for each perceived tooth....for Ceor86 - going down 1 tooth on the front sprocket is the rough equivalent of going up 3 teeth on the rear.
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More or less that's exactly the reason. It was in its power sweet spot at a higher speed. Stock gearing on my TT600s was 14/42, but I generally went with 15/47 or 15/49.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:19 PM   #8 (permalink)
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With stock gearing, by the time you are into the power band, you will be above legal urban speed in anything but first gear.

On my S4 I am currently running 15/48, and will also run 14/48 when I am running somewhere that the top speed will be down. Either stock or with 15/48 I get a top speed of about 140mph, at which point the engine has nothing left. At 14/38, it should be able to hit 140 at redline, but actually tops out at just over 130.

Stock is 15/45, which would give 160mph at redline, and there is no way that it could get there with me on it, except going off a cliff. With the naked bike, and a rather less than svelte rider, it is just asking too much.
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Thank you guys for the help. sorry its been so long.

So by changing the gearing do i gain top speed or acceleration?

As of now for the things that ive got for the bike are a bunch of little lights (tail lights, turn signals, led, etc)

i did install the HID 55w 6000k from DDM tuning and they look great and are as bright as i would want them to be ( wouldn't mind brighter :-p )
Waiting until the winter to start taking the bike apart and do work on it.

one thing that came to mind is putting a 955 engine in it, are the mounts the same? im assuming it would have to be remapped to accommodate to the new fueling consumption.









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Check out gearing commander on Google for gearing info. The 955i has a very different frame from your d650 and I'm assuming a very different ecu as it was developed in the late 90's so that would be a downgrade. That would be tons of work and money, not to say it can't be done.
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