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post #11 of 42 (permalink) Old 08-06-2011, 09:06 PM
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Definitely having the speedo problem, I'll check this out, thanks
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post #12 of 42 (permalink) Old 09-28-2011, 04:08 PM
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Just to let you know of a possible alternative to the OEM stator.

I have recently fitted a used one from a Kawasaki ZX6 to replace my burned out Speed 4 unit.
It is the same physical size and has the mounting holes in the same place, the only differences being that on the Kawaski part the stator leads are longer, the plug and grommet are different and the winding pillars are slightly narrower.
Since fitting, I have been getting 14.2v at all revs with the MOSFET modification.
These parts come up more regularly than the Triumph stator and are in much better condition (they seem not to suffer burning as much as the Speed 4) they are also cheaper; a used Triumph unit sells for £60-90 on Ebay, whereas the Kawasaki unit sells for half this, in fact I picked one up for £7.00 all in!
Details for the Kawasaki are:
Kawasaki ZX6RG,J,636A. ZX9RC,E,F. Stator/Generator.
2003.
Part number: 21003-1330.

I have seen other possible alternatives (Yam and Honda) but at £7 the Kawa one had to be worth the gamble.

I will keep all posted as it looks like it may be a viable alternative.
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post #13 of 42 (permalink) Old 09-28-2011, 05:23 PM
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Fantastic post Sir.
I was eventually forced into buying a OEM Triumph stator and rr after burning out multiple Electrexworld stators, The OEM cost me about £700.
My biggest fear is that the OEM will also burn out eventually, so knowing that there is an alternative is very reassuring!
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Just to let you know of a possible alternative to the OEM stator.

I have recently fitted a used one from a Kawasaki ZX6 to replace my burned out Speed 4 unit.
It is the same physical size and has the mounting holes in the same place, the only differences being that on the Kawasaki part the stator leads are longer, the plug and grommet are different and the winding pillars are slightly narrower.
Since fitting, I have been getting 14.2v at all revs with the MOSFET modification.
These parts come up more regularly than the Triumph stator and are in much better condition (they seem not to suffer burning as much as the Speed 4) they are also cheaper; a used Triumph unit sells for £60-90 on Ebay, whereas the Kawasaki unit sells for half this, in fact I picked one up for £7.00 all in!
Details for the Kawasaki are:
Kawasaki ZX6RG,J,636A. ZX9RC,E,F. Stator/Generator.
2003.
Part number: 21003-1330.

I have seen other possible alternatives (Yam and Honda) but at £7 the Kawa one had to be worth the gamble.

I will keep all posted as it looks like it may be a viable alternative.
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you state "the plug and grommet are different " does this mean you had to change the corresponding receptacle on the Triumph end of the wiring?
Is the MOSFET change necessary to have this all work?

Thank you for your informative post.

I ride it like I paid for it.

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post #15 of 42 (permalink) Old 09-29-2011, 04:53 PM
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you state "the plug and grommet are different " does this mean you had to change the corresponding receptacle on the Triumph end of the wiring?
Is the MOSFET change necessary to have this all work?

Thank you for your informative post.
Yes, correct; I had to change the grommet and the plug.

1) The grommet I just lubed and slid off, I don't think these are available as a seperate part so are potentially gold-dust, it would be well worth hanging on to any that you come across.

2) The plug I chopped off and changed for a Delphi unit from Eastern Beaver.

3) No, the MOSFET mod is not necessary for this to work but is highly recommended as the standard, OEM units fail on a regular basis due to overheating, once the Reg goes, the Stator shortly follows. The MOSFET is more efficient and therefore runs cooler, it is just another component to take out of the system.

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post #16 of 42 (permalink) Old 06-10-2012, 03:04 PM
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i too was having the Speedo problems. Started out as a dying battery. Then speedo started to flicker. Then gone. Turned out to be a burnt stator (pictured). The R/R wasn't essential, but i didnt want to take a chance. W old R/R 13.2V, with mosfet like 14.1.

replacements from http://www.regulatorrectifier.com, came with the right connectors already. No splicing nec, everything bolted up - pretty awesome.
~$150 each. shipping was fast.

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post #17 of 42 (permalink) Old 06-11-2012, 09:52 AM
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Just to let you know of a possible alternative to the OEM stator.

I have recently fitted a used one from a Kawasaki ZX6 to replace my burned out Speed 4 unit.
It is the same physical size and has the mounting holes in the same place, the only differences being that on the Kawaski part the stator leads are longer, the plug and grommet are different and the winding pillars are slightly narrower.
Since fitting, I have been getting 14.2v at all revs with the MOSFET modification.
These parts come up more regularly than the Triumph stator and are in much better condition (they seem not to suffer burning as much as the Speed 4) they are also cheaper; a used Triumph unit sells for £60-90 on Ebay, whereas the Kawasaki unit sells for half this, in fact I picked one up for £7.00 all in!
Details for the Kawasaki are:
Kawasaki ZX6RG,J,636A. ZX9RC,E,F. Stator/Generator.
2003.
Part number: 21003-1330.

I have seen other possible alternatives (Yam and Honda) but at £7 the Kawa one had to be worth the gamble.

I will keep all posted as it looks like it may be a viable alternative.
Just to update on this:

12k on the clock (6k on this stator) and still running with no problems!
The only mod I have added is a CompuFire series reg. My MOSFET was working fine but as I got the Kawasaki part so cheap and did not want the risk of another burn-out and, potentially, the cost of a OEM stator, I replaced it, just for peace of mind.

My conclusion (Based on my own practical experience):
1) The Kawasaki Stator appears to be a suitable alternative to the Triumph unit.

2) The ultimate answer to the 'My Speed 4 keeps burning stators' issue is to replace the OEM R/R with the series reg, it comes at what seems a large initial cost but if you are planning on keeping the bike long term and wish to keep it reliable then against the cost of regular replacement of battery, stator, r/r this is the cheapest option.

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Just to let you know of a possible alternative to the OEM stator.

I have recently fitted a used one from a Kawasaki ZX6 to replace my burned out Speed 4 unit.
It is the same physical size and has the mounting holes in the same place, the only differences being that on the Kawaski part the stator leads are longer, the plug and grommet are different and the winding pillars are slightly narrower.
Since fitting, I have been getting 14.2v at all revs with the MOSFET modification.
These parts come up more regularly than the Triumph stator and are in much better condition (they seem not to suffer burning as much as the Speed 4) they are also cheaper; a used Triumph unit sells for £60-90 on Ebay, whereas the Kawasaki unit sells for half this, in fact I picked one up for £7.00 all in!
Details for the Kawasaki are:
Kawasaki ZX6RG,J,636A. ZX9RC,E,F. Stator/Generator.
2003.
Part number: 21003-1330.

I have seen other possible alternatives (Yam and Honda) but at £7 the Kawa one had to be worth the gamble.

I will keep all posted as it looks like it may be a viable alternative.

so how did it go
(zx6-stator) in the long run
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It's still working like a dream; 14+ volts at all revs with over 13k on the mileage.
The only mod I have done is to swap the MOSFET reg for the series reg, I now feel that I have a reliable charging system. The reg swap appears to be expensive initially but if you consider the cost of continually paying out for replacement stators, batteries and/or regs then really, it's a no-brainer.
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It's still working like a dream; 14+ volts at all revs with over 13k on the mileage.
The only mod I have done is to swap the MOSFET reg for the series reg, I now feel that I have a reliable charging system. The reg swap appears to be expensive initially but if you consider the cost of continually paying out for replacement stators, batteries and/or regs then really, it's a no-brainer.

I also did this swap last year as the original gave up 100mls after
i purchased the bike, i have not done the reg swap, but may still
bypass to the battery with the original reg, i also connected an led
that monitors the alt/battery, i wont get caught out next time.
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