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Tiger's 885i & 955i - Mods & Workshop Workshop and technical talk for the 885i & 955i Tigers

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Old 11-06-2012, 03:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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new owner , SOS : Tiger 955i '06 clutch and gear box issues

Hi from Athens , Hellas (Greece) to all !

I want first to thank everyone in the forum trying to help all the rest of us !!!
I've been reading 100's of posts for 4 months now ... you have been very helpful !
Then to ask for forgiveness for my English for it's not my language ....

So , I got a black ''girlie'' 2 months ago with 49000 km on , to finally travel a little after 20 years of riding...
So far , I had noticed some vibration between 5-7000 rpm on the highway but didn't pay attention cause it had the panniers on (driving it after buying it ...).
Due to a radiator problem (and a second bike) I hadn't move it for 2 months now - trying to fix a few things - .
Five days ago , on the way home , I noticed that front was knocking hard. Like bearings need tightening or missing a ball...
I was on to a Triumph dealer (....) anyway , to give it a close look , and advice me of the condition of the bike (...there's always an option to ''paint it blue and throw it in the Sea '' as we say here in Greece ! ).
They said that surprisingly (!!!) the motor was very quiet for the mileage and I have to say that I was shocked !
... ''where was I getting into again ''was my first thought....
(if I had to describe my 20 years 2 wheels experience , I'd have to use the whole server's capacity writing , and many would ''die'' out laughing !!! ...as a hint , the older bike was 620 '97 and now has 640 '01 motor with only 41000 km since new .....))
When service guy got back from the test ride , he noticed a clutch problem ''finding neutral as well as bike still pulling when clutch lever pressed '' , something had not have happened to me ( must have heated up problem and showed up) .
His supervisor said ''must be the disks'' .

Story on , (...sorry once again for babbling...) yesterday with a 2nd person up , my ''trip'' for a coffee was ruined up , once again....
Although front was not knocking at all , a frightening hammering noise from gear box was heard after a few km as if chain was string tight ( a problem first noticed in AT i sold when I got the tiger) or a ball from bearing was missing . One could say that teeth in gear box had a mile spacing between them ! (I'll loosened it up more tomorrow and check again ).

When we got back to city traffic , I couldn't find neutral from 1st or 2nd gear , and to shift from 3rd or 4rth I had to rev up a few times...
...I must have had hit the start button 80 out 100 times I had to stop !!! The fact that I wasn't on the side from drained battery must have been a miracle (to my own history IT IS ; )
Of course , coolant was over boiling point and I was served almost a glass of it on some traffic light . 90% of the city drive was with fan working -outside temp was no more than 22-24 Celsius !!! - .
Under TuneEcu -just to erase error light- I saw that fan started at 103 C and kept temp at 105 C at idle !
How can I lower that point from ECU side sirs ?? or do I have to change the bimetal valve ? (1st question...)

2nd question : Did someone found a solution for the gear change problem when bike gets hot ? (I must say that i was trying to find a better clutch lever regulator adjustment all the way back , but of no luck...)

and 3rd : You think that it's a ''good'' time to puti it on sale ?!?
I'm too old to go through the same sit I've been through ALL those years fixing or rebuilding bikes , reading only posts of traveling !!! Lets assume that for 45000 km bike was on tight chain , so is the strong noise - a gear box problem or bearing out - .

I found a few old posts about wandering around internet but I'm very stressed at the moment as I feel I'm in deep sit once again , in desperate need of advice !!!


My apologies for babbling once again.
Apologies to the administrator for any misuse of your site so far - my first forum participation since ever- ....

Thanx for your time reading this , any help will be most appreciated !!!

P.S. Any tech advise will help . Father and grandfather were servicing any kind of internal combustion engine , gas or petrol, so I can understand a few stuff myself .
Thanks again for all the help from all posts so far !
hope someone will help with this one too
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hello Isokratis, and welcome.

From my limited knowledge I would recommend you check and or change the oil in your bike. It can be difficult to find neutral with the wrong oil being used.

I have never done it myself but I thought it was easy to adjust the settings to have your fan cut in earlier. Sounds like you have access to a cable and the TuneEcu site to do this.

The knocking is a mystery to me. It sounds intermittent. But Tigers definitely do not like having their chains too tight.

I think it's too early to consider " painting the bike blue ".

Hopefully others will chime in with some more thoughts or suggestions.

BTW ( by the way )your English is pretty good.

JJ
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Old 11-10-2012, 03:24 PM   #3 (permalink)
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JJ[/QUOTE]

Hi Johnjo !!!

Thanx for your time replying my notes.

It's true that I haven't changed oil yet , because last owner insitsts he did so and I have to check some serious stuff before put some serious money on synthetic and filter - oil level is ok btw -.

So far , (as from a former Triumph head service guy told me) ,
we -or finally I ... - must first change coolant tank - thermo housing and cap (...$) , to figure out if it's a gasket problem (...extra $$) .
Then , we must change clutch disks and the metal ones (+$$$) and (if clutch housing is Not defected = $$$) then we'll be sure that transmission gear's bearing is not damaged from using bike with tight chain !!!! Otherwise as you know , as far as I think I mean , motor has to be split ! (....some hundreds of $ !!!!)

That's where the ''paint it blue'' story comes in because I'm in a very bad economic situation at the moment (and I think for long time on...) .

My main big problem thinking is that after all these works done , no one can say for sure that problems fixed....
Forum is full of strange problems showing up at no time .
Of course , ECU is the main reason for most .
Vehicles became digital **** and authorized service is charging per hour (most of the times , one of their hour cost us 2 days of work !!!) !
But , what can we do ?! ...ecological ******** theories push all over (I wonder how can single use plastic stuff , digital gadgets - non serviceable - that require new nuclear power plants to charge them, transferring carbon prints between countries , major industrial countries not signing eco laws -with Asian countries TOTALLY OUT of the picture- , etc , consist of a help to save planet and us in Europe -and the states- have to pay big time money on ''catalytic'' technology in ''refreshment cans'' ( plastic cars since the 80's) that after 7 - 10 years - depends on guarantee , lol - break down just like that !!!).

Anyways , we can't do much on that . As for my tiger (my...well I have no more that 200 km on it !...) I'll do the tank-cap-thermo myself and if gasket has a problem , I'll give it a try . I think I can fix that too . If i will not make it , since I wouldn't find a buyer at the condition bike has now , tiger on parts would be listed anyway ....(...no money, no honey !).

In any case , TuneEcu help on triggering the fan temperature on point is still needed (haven't read the manual yet ...).

Again , I have to thank you guys for writing back !
Since 06-11 when I posted that freaked out , you were the only ones you tried to help in any way (maybe is my writing -too much blah blah and not posting triumphs on triumphs - , maybe the Hellas i.d. , maybe something else)! There is a replies and views total there to make me thank you even if I didn't wanted to...

I wish you the best and safe ridings around our still wonderful planet.
Have Fun ,
Ioannis (john in English ; )
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As for the hard shifting and difficulty finding neutral, my first check is for fraying of the clutch cable at the handgrip.
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