Triumphrat

boocat · 05-22-2006, 01:11 PM

I nned to change the 'angle' of the pedal as I have to press down too far to engage the rear brake. How can this be done.

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ShereKhan · 05-22-2006, 05:54 PM

Not adjusted it on my Tiger yet but on most bikes there is a link rod that runs up from the back of the pedal to the brake cylinder. This is usually a length of screwed rod with a locknut, undo the locknut and turn the rod to shorten or lengthen it and this should change the angle the pedal sits at relative to your footpeg. If I've got my angles right then you need to lengthen it to bring the pedal up more. Remember to tighten the locknut again.

Please correct me if the Tiger has a totally different setup.

Graeme.

KuzzinKenny · 05-22-2006, 08:23 PM

i`ve just been reading about this on the Tiger Chat !!

look for ( The bit that goes first. ) it was posted by TigerLilly and you will find out how to do it.

sorry !! still dont know how to do links :???:

KK

djr · 05-23-2006, 01:41 AM

watch you do not bring her up too far as this will cause you to lock the rear every time you hit it.

I was actually reading a book last week the suggested adjusting the rear pedal to the point where you could not get het to lock up due to lack of foot movement. This was done quite deliberately but allowed enough braking to steady the bike without offering too much and locking her up.

robbie · 05-23-2006, 07:50 AM

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On 2006-05-22 23:41, djr wrote:
I was actually reading a book last week the suggested adjusting the rear pedal to the point where you could not get het to lock up due to lack of foot movement. This was done quite deliberately but allowed enough braking to steady the bike without offering too much and locking her up.

This seams to be the same idea that the Indians have with the Enfields that they hire. the front brakes are trimmed so that on the dusty roads you can not lock the front wheel ( slowing down is also something you can not do) the front brake works fine for hill starts and such like.

I think it is a myth just like 'you just have to lay er down sometimes'

Brakes serve one function only, to slow you down, this can be the most important bit and reducing your ability to do it is very very silly.

if you have a problem with locking up either brake then learn to deal with it.[

What book was it dave? Noddy and the art of motorcycling?

:-D :-D :-D

djr · 05-23-2006, 08:21 AM

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What book was it dave? Noddy and the art of motorcycling?

no, it was actually Sport Riding techniques by Nick ienatsch (an ex-racer) but the book is geared to real world road riding and in particular cornering and braking techniques.

It kind of tied in with what happened with my Tiger when i first got her as the rear was just sooooo easy to lock up. It took very little to be leaving black tyre marks down the road. It was sorted out at one of the early services by LOWERING the foot lever so that you had to be more conscious of how you applied it.

Myth??? maybe but it has been noted in a few books (the one quoted was the latest I read that came up with the same) and it follows from my own experience with the Tiger.

Noddy - I dont think sooooooo :wink:

winger · 05-23-2006, 08:51 AM

It isn't possible to ajust the brake pedal up to much!!!! i've had to do it on all three Tigers i've had even before i've ridden e'm,as i don't have a double jointed ankle!!!

Ajust it as far as it will go it'll just about do!!!.

nobby400 · 05-23-2006, 02:04 PM

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On 2006-05-23 06:21, djr wrote:
It kind of tied in with what happened with my Tiger when i first got her as the rear was just sooooo easy to lock up. It took very little to be leaving black tyre marks down the road. It was sorted out at one of the early services by LOWERING the foot lever so that you had to be more conscious of how you applied it.

You need to be able to use the max braking force available. This is the "learning to deal with it" that Robbie was on about. Dont adjust your brakes so you cant lock the wheel, learn to ride your bike and get used to it.

You will be suprised how much braking you can get out of the rear on a Tiger. You will lock any wheel on most bikes if you apply the brakes to quickly, progressively is the answer.

Nick ienatsch would have been on about sports bike, who's rear brakes are as much use as a Chocolate Teapot anyway.

robbie · 05-23-2006, 04:29 PM

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On 2006-05-23 06:21, djr wrote:

no, it was actually Sport Riding techniques by Nick ienatsch (an ex-racer)

From this CV I think he is an ex-jurno who did a bit of racing

Nick CV

and you know my thoughts on them.

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On 2006-05-23 06:21, djr wrote:

It kind of tied in with what happened with my Tiger when i first got her as the rear was just sooooo easy to lock up. It took very little to be leaving black tyre marks down the road. It was sorted out at one of the early services by LOWERING the foot lever so that you had to be more conscious of how you applied it.

Noddy - I dont think sooooooo :wink:

When I got Mohan the brake was in the wrong position for correct control so I had to adjust it. like you I had to lower it. as supplied I had to lift my leg to put my foot on it, this gave no control of the braking force.

positioning the pedal so that the rider can control the amount of force applied is a good thing and should be encouraged.

suggesting the pedal should be positioned so that the rider cannot apply enough force to lock the wheel is very very silly and more like andy pandy

in what conditions did this recommendation say:
with a full load and no front brake
down hill on a gravel path
full emergency front brake

in Nick's 'The Pace' he states
"The number-one survival skill, after mastering emergency braking, is setting your corner-entrance speed early, or as Kenny Roberts says, "Slow in, fast out.""

so that would be the number two survival skill after learning to brake

The Pace by Nick ienatsch

Dave as a Scot you should know that Noddy had a scooter!!!

:wink:

djr · 05-24-2006, 01:50 AM

sport bike rear brakes are every bit as good as they are on the Tiger and yes you can lock up the rear. The Tigers rear becomes easier to lock up because of the way the front is suspended and the weight transfer is much more extreme than on a sport bike.

I have always used my rear brake on all bikes, Tiger, sport or otherwise. I have pretty good feel with my feet as far as braking is concerned but the Tiger as set up standard was just far too easy to lock up. After careful adjustment it became much better. I could still bring the bike to a stop quickly and I could still lock up the rear but took a conscious effort to achieve.

As to "the pace" and slow in fast out that part applies to cornering (as you well know). But we dont just brake in corners. I do actually practice braking and high speed braking (as well as other techniques). I use front and rear and do so progressively. irrespective of how progressive you are there comes a point where all brakes will potentially lock up and 99% of the time the rear will lock earlier than the front. Now to me if the rear is adjusted to the point where that possibility is lessened it leaves you with more attention on the front (where most of the stopping power is).

Hell do what is good for you. I prefer my brakes to work to their potential but they can only be effective up until the point grip is lost (thats what happens when they lock up).

Maybe I should get a little blue pointy hat with a bell on :razz: