Triumphrat

johnlk · 01-30-2008

Hi all, I've just bought an original Triumph auxiliary power socket (off eBay), which was listed to fit the 955 model.
However, the instructions state that it's for the 1050 model ONLY, and there's all sorts of warnings that it should only be fitted to this model of Tiger.
I wrote to the seller who told me he didn't realise, and that he will refund me, but because of postage costs and time, I'd rather check with you guys as to whether you think it will work anyway.
The Triumph part number is: A9938037 and a google search only shows up it's for the 1050.
My bike's an "03" Tiger, which has the plate ready to receive the socket, and the wiring connector ready too. I have read on this forum that the "03" model should have the socket as standard, but mine must have been removed at some point in it's short life.
I'm hoping to hear it will be fine on my bike, but I just want to doule-check with you knowledgeable fellas.

byjingo · 01-30-2008

I am no expert in Triumph part numbers but I have just looked at the power socket on my 955 and the power cable connector is in the shape of a tee. The top of the tee is ground and the vertical bit positive. I would say that as long as the connections on the new socket match this configuration it can't hurt to fit it. You can remove the connectors from the block and refit them the other way round if you have to but it is fiddly to do.
The actual plug in bit is universal, as long as it will fit in the mounting plate what can go wrong?

I hate paying postage to return goods that I had to pay postage to send to me.

johnlk · 01-30-2008

Thanks for that byjingo.
I have the socket in front of me now and the connections are just as you described, they're in a T formation.
I haven't got my bike close by, but I remember the connection is the same too, so I'm sure this socket will fit the plug on my bike.
In the instructions though it says, (under a "Warning" heading):

"This accessory kit is designed for use on Triumph Tiger (1050cc) motorcycles only and should not be fitted to any other Triumph model or to any other manufacturers motorcycle"

Mind you it then goes on to say:

"Fitting this accessory kit to any other Triumph model, or to any other manufacturers motocycle, may interfere with the rider and could affect the handling, stability or other aspects of the motorcycles operation which may result in loss of motorcycle control and an accident"

The warning is obviously a standard statement Triumph use in all their instructions, so I'm not concerned that I could lose all control of my bike by fitting the socket, it's just that it does state that it's for the 1050 only that makes me wonder.
Mind you I've read posts on this forum where other members are fitting sockets made for tractors or boats (as they're all the same), so I'm sure it will work with no problems at all.
Unless of course the 1050 is not a 12 volt bike......

TucsonBill · 01-30-2008

The outlets aren't actually Triumph, they're Powerlet. I think you'll find plenty of info at http://www.powerletproducts.com/index.php?mid=0
I truly believe that the only parts unique to any motorcycle are the nameplates! Well, there may be a few more things......In the process of rebuilding Maggie, I often researched the real manufacturers and found duplicate parts listed for Suzuki, Yamaha, etc.
I think if you lost control because of the type of outlet you installed on the motorcycle, we would have to throw you off the forum and make you sell your Triumph!

johnlk · 02-02-2008

For the sake of other people reading this with a similar problem, the socket fits perfectly in the mounting bracket, and the "T" shaped electrical connector is the same too.
I'm still unsure what makes it specific to only the 1050, but it fits and works on the 955 so ***.
It's permanently live too which is a surprise as I thought it would be switched with the ignition.

katoomon · 02-02-2008

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Originally Posted by johnlk

For the sake of other people reading this with a similar problem, the socket fits perfectly in the mounting bracket, and the "T" shaped electrical connector is the same too.
I'm still unsure what makes it specific to only the 1050, but it fits and works on the 955 so ***.
It's permanently live too which is a surprise as I thought it would be switched with the ignition.

I have the stock one on my 05, and it too is permanently live; this is very handy for plugging in a battery tender. The fuse for this accessory plug in in the fuse box. Just make sure that the power delivery is compatible with whatever you are plugging in. By that I mean center positive or center negative, the vast array of accessories available are wired both ways.

Arrybash · 02-03-2008

A 12v power socket can be fitted to anything.

On the 955i the socket its permanently live, hence all you need to do is connect the positive wire to a live and the negative to the earth.

I would recommend putting a fuse in.

Chris

rxcoop · 02-21-2008

not real familiar with electronics...did visit benj franklin's house in philly tho. i understand that the tiger1050 employs a CANbus system, similar to that of the BMWs. i have been told that this affects the manner in which electronic accessories can be added to the bike's system. perhaps, someone with me electronic expertise will chime in on this....

nehpetsthegrey · 02-24-2008

The 1050 Tiger released in 07 does NOT employ a CANbus system. The wiring is standard set up and the workshop manual verifies this.
Most likely reason for the auxilliary socket problem is that they tend to be very cautious about accessories and like to sell them as for this model only so as to limit any litigation problems. Look at the pigs ear they made of the front fender extender for a 1050. The extender of a speed tripple and a daytona is exactly the same. But is unsuitable because the fittings are slightly differnt ????

rxcoop · 02-24-2008

"An interesting electrical note here: The Tiger uses a CAN-Bus electrical system just like the GS does. The only difference is that the Tiger doesn't use virtual fuses like the GS, it has a real fusebox under the seat. But if you think you are avoiding CAN-Bus by going Triumph, you are mistaken."

i told you i didnt know a whole lot about electricals....based my opinion on this one review. naught me.....