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TBIRD438TX

Can anyone explain why...with all the information given to the rider on the 1050 Tiger display, how or why did they (TRIUMPH) not include a gear indicator within the display?

You;d also think that with all the electonic sophistication, self-cancelling turn signals would have been standard onboard kit as well. :???:

Otherwise...love the bike.

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Ken Levin
Coppell, TX 75019

JRO

Self-cancelling signals are a bother. They either go off too soon, or too late. Millions of people are killed, each year, because of self-cancellers. Automobilists are confused that the cyclist either intends to turn after making his turn, or is not going to turn when he thought he'd turn. Thus, they run over and kill the rider. So, after spending billions on safety research and engineering, Triumph chose to 'go their own way', and omitted self-cancelling signals from the Tiger.

Likewise, gear shift indicators are for folks who don't know what gear they're in, who usually kill themselves while riding, trying to read their LCD displays. After more billions were spent on R&D, Triumph determined that NOT incorporating a shift indicator would be an additional safety feature, which could possibly further insure motorcycle safety, by encouraging riders to become more experienced. The experienced rider usually knows what gear he's in, by the sound and feel of his bike. Experienced riders invariably safer riders. Thus, millions more lives will be saved by the exclusion of a dangerous and annoying device.

When I think of the vast amounts of money and engineering Triumph builds into these bikes - for our safety - virtually unheralded by the public - It almost brings tears to my eyes.

Best of luck with your new bike.

bomber13

another take on the lack of self-cancelling sigs and gear indicator is profit -- here in the 'States, an ABS Tiger with factory bags (all three), centerstand, heated grips et al is uncomfortably close to BMW pricing -- not quite there, but, if a rider is chosing their bike primarily on price, the trick signals and gear indicator (which would be tough to sell as accessories) would raise the price of hte bike -- not a lot, but, if you've ever worked in a manufacturing company, you know how easily feature creep can raise the price of your product out of it's "natural" price range . . . .

BarkSlayer

Believe me, BMW has been keeping a close watch on Triumph. They've begun pricing their bikes as "base models" and are charging hundreds for extras that add up to numbers much larger than anything the British can imagine - a practice that has helped propel U.S. automakers to the lofty heights they currently enjoy.

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Sertelegger

While the previous replies about profit and people knowing what gear they are in might be true, I think Triumph's decision in this case didn't have to do with either.

Before I bought my '07 Tiger I had my eye on an '06 Speed Triple, which has almost the same instrument cluster as the Tiger, but only almost. And guess what, yes it has a digital gear indicator. I'm sure everyone will agree that the S3 is not for beginners who don't know what they are doing, and it's also cheaper than the Tiger, so profit is also not the reason.

I simply think some marketing dude at Triumph decided that the majority of Tiger riders won't need a gear indicator, period. Regarding the self-canceling turn signals, I have to agree with some of the previous comments.

In a car it makes sense because you can detect turns much easier and you can hear the clicking noise when the turn signal is released. Even if I had self-canceling signals, I would probably not rely on them. Your turn signals are the only thing telling other vehicles around you where you are intending to go, and I for one much rather press the turn-signal-cancel-button after each turn than to rely on some automatic mechanism.

I have ridden Harley's before which had automatic canceling, and it only worked reliably in narrow turns, not in slight or slow turns, so you end up canceling it yourself half the time anyway.

Good luck with your new bike!

abruzzi

My '06 Speed Triple has no gear indicator. I wish it did.

Geof

RedBird

Same person that decided to put too short a chain guard on the '07 made the decisions about the gear indicator and self cancelling turn signals. :-D :-D

Larry

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Larry
2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.

Tone in't Fens

With that low range torque, why did Triumph fit 'em with more than 2 gears?

dragon6

Keep the gear selector off: Triumph does an excellent job bringing products to the market. My 05' Tiger sits next to two Ducati's in the garage.
I don't need gear indicator's or self-cancelling turn indicators. I ride. I ride.

On ABS: If you feel you need them,buy them. The recent Bike magazie compared a 675 to a GS w/ABS braking from 100mph to 20mph. Read the article.

Triumph could improve on aftermarket items for their products; Just look a Ducati and BMW. The accessories fill books. Triumph accessories fill 3 pages and that is mostly exhaust pipes which will be eliminated by noise and emission requirements.

For the Tiger, I would like to see: rear tire hugger, factory crashbars, belly pan (metal) fog lamps (frame mounted, crashbar mounted, passenger backrest, funtional tank bag, rear shock option, front fork spring option.


Lynn
Dragon 6

supergiantrobot

My 07 does not have one either, he must have been refering to the 675 which does have one. the only reason i think i'd want one on my S3 is because there is so much midrange i find myself wanted to shift into 7th on the highway so that it feels lifeless in top gear like my old cbr 600.