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creativefilmcars

Looking to unleash the 1050 Tiger by building the ultimate two-up sport touring hooligan bike. The idea is a Speed Triple/Tiger cross-breed. I would like to use mostly parts available from the Triumph catalog, but am totally open to aftermarket.

I want a Speed Triple, but need the functionality of a Tiger. So why not have both?

Here is what I have so far:

Magura handlebars and radial master cylinder from the Speed Triple.
Triumph: Accessory Muffler, Anodized Front and Rear Brake Reservoir.
Tuneboy
Ohlins TR 704 Rear Shock, and Front Shock springs
Fork and Frame sliders

Suggestions?

RedBird

The engines are the same, but power output is different. In order to get near the same HP as the S3, you need to nix the snorkle in the Tiger airbox and install the S3 tumpets or whatever they call the small plastic liners for the two airbox inlet holes. If you are going to spend money on the Triumph TOR exhaust, why bother with your project? There are MANY aftermarket exhausts available that weigh 1/4 or less than the TOR and produce as much or more HP. Go to www.tiger1050.com and search for some old exhaust threads.

The gearing on the S3 is different and the ECU on the S3 and Sprint ST are different than the one on the Tiger. You can can change sprockets to get the same or nearly the same gearing, but you are probably stuck with the ECU. However, there are more and more maps available for the Tuneboy, so you may want to investigate these to unleash even more HP. Again, www.tiger1050.com is a good source for info.

If I were buying an exhaust can, I would look at the Remus Power cone, and think about changing the right side pannier bracket so I could use large Triumph panniers on both sides like the Sprint ST does. It sure changes the looks of the bike with panniers.

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Larry
2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.

Craig Thomas

I've been searching on how to remove the snorkel from the airbox. I haven't taken the bike apart yet, so before diving in, just looking for some tips. I'm thinking of getting a K&N filter if they are available.

Any advice?

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2008 Triumph Tiger 1050
2009 Ducati Monster 696

RedBird

1. Purchase a Triumph Service Manual--very good in telling one how to remove/install stuff OR wait until the Haynes manual is available (last I heard it was due out this November.

2. To install an air filter or remove the snorkel, one has to remove the fuel tank. To remove the fuel tank, one has to remove the fairing pieces, except for the nose cone piece. The Triumph service manual has a very good step-by-step procedure, except it leaves out a couple of very good steps........1) Find a good spot to sit the tank BEFORE removing it (I have an old carpet runner that I put on the garage floor for the tank). 2) Remove the ty-rap connected to the lower right corner of the tank--the one holding a wiring sub-harness.

3. I use a couple of short 2X2 boards to block up the rear of the tank while I remove the wiring connectors and the two small hoses. This sometimes helps when removing the fuel line self sealing connector, but sometimes nothing helps my old hands and it takes a few tries before I am successful.

4. Once the tank is removed one is looking at the top of the airbox. Remove the screws--don't forget the one near the center of the top (this one also holds the air filter in place if my old memory is correct). Remove the top of the airbox.

5. The filter and the snorkel are easily seen. The snorkel can be removed by pushing and twisting to free the ends of the snorkel from the airbox--they are glued to the airbox, but come out with little effort.

6. While in there I recommend using some silicone to seal the hole in the front. left bottom of the airbox--this hole is about 1/4" in diameter and is on the CLEAN side of the filter which means dirty air can come in this hole and go straight to the throttle bodies. Looking at this hole from the bottom side of the airbox, it looks like it was designed for a hose but none is used. Don't confuse this hole with the one out the front of the airbox that goes to the AI system.

7. Be sure your replacement air filter fits properly. Some have said they have to take the outer rubber seal off the factory filter to put on the replacement one to make it fit--doesn't sound right to me but be aware of this. I run the stock filter because I live on a very dusty, gravel road.

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Larry
2003 T-100 (790cc), NARK, NH Togas, 8100 rpm rev limiter, 158 main jets, 42 pilot jets (less than 1 turn out on pilot screws), stock needles--no shims. 13 A/F ratio from 1100 rpm to 4000 rpm; 12 A/F ratio from 4000 rpm to 6000 rpm; 13 A/F from 6000 rpm to 8100 rpm.:D
2007 Tiger 1050--White:D--SW-Motech crashbars, Skidmarx rear hugger/chain guard, Calsci +7 windscreen.

Craig Thomas

Thank you!

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2008 Triumph Tiger 1050
2009 Ducati Monster 696

creativefilmcars

Sweet! Take the Speed Triple Arrow three into one exhaust and with just a little fabricating you have a wicked system. We used the Triumph Arrow race pipe mapping. Goes like hell and not too loud. Perfect!

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thewolf-Oz

Nice...

Just a thought... could you just use the Tiger suspension on a Speed Triple?

Also, would the Tiger subframe fit a Speed Triple? I'm sure the frames are similar (though I know they are slightly different). I'm actually after some luggage options for my Speedy and no one makes pannier stays for it

jon6.0

I'm going to start my own thread, but I want to do something like that with my 09 Speed Triple.

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09 White Speed Triple, Racetech Gold Valves front and back set up for dirt/gravel/touring on rough roads, SW Motech dirt/street pegs and Alu-rack, Sunline YZ85 shifter, Rox 2" risers, Scorpion Trail tires.

I don't need no dang "adventure" bike.

FishHuntRide

I saw this thread and wondered what ever came of the Speedy/Tiger? Are you done? What was the outcome?

For me it is a tough call. Do you get a sporty bike and try to make it comfy or a comfy bike and try to make is sporty? I'm considering a Tiger and if this worked, it could be just the ticket.

winger

I did a similar thing 8 years ago with my 955,if a thing hasn't been done before means a lot of e-mails/phones and burning the midnight oil,i have a bike that steers like a roller skate(even when two up with a pile of kit) brakes like a sports bike,and has a boat load of stiff!!! suspension for when the roads get bad,building it, working out what works and what doesn't is expensive and time consuming,and hugely satisfying,but easy it ain't.