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Old 12-28-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Problems with 1050 Tigers?

I recently bought the UK mag "SuperBike". They had an article covering Triumph from 1995 - 2006/7. They mention "stories regarding the Tiger are starting to seep out". I was wondering if anyone's had any real issues with the new Tigers?
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"Real Issues with the Tiger 1050"...I guess that depends on your point of view.

I have kept up with the threads on the tiger1050.com forum for many months now and the complaints that get the most responses seem to be "which color is fastest" and "which exhaust can sounds and looks the best".

As usual, there have been complaints covering just about every part of the bike at one time or another; however, many (maybe most) of the forum members on tiger1050.com say it is either the best or one of the best bikes they have owned.

Here's a sample of the complaints:

1. Headlights: Only one shines on dim (or dipped)--both shine on bright. Some have found the adjustment to be too far to the left (like it was adjusted for the UK roads--mine was like this). Some have complained the lights are not bright enough--they are VERY bright compared to my bonneville). Someone in Australia builds a kit that lets both lights shine on dim.

2. Windscreen: Noise and buffeting are the two major complaints besides "looks". I doubt if it is very much different than earlier tigers. With the windscreen so far from the rider, it is difficult to design one that works well for all heights and riding positions of riders. There are a lot of aftermarket screens available, now...just a problem deciding which one will solve your problem if you have one.

3. Front mudguard: Too short in back, and the Triumph mudguard extender was discontinued for the 1050. Some have used the mudguard extender from the S3 & Daytona with good success; however, they glue the extender on rather than bolt it one--some have said the bolts are the reason Triumph discontinued their extender for the 1050...they could touch the tire and cause problems.

4. Mirrors: Is there any bike that doesn't get mirror complaints???

5. Tank: Too small..there is only fuel enough for 250 miles of riding and some don't want to stop so often.

6. Seat: Too much...too little...too wide...too narrow...too high...too low. I put the seat in the same class with the mirrors.

7. Suspension: Too tall, too short, too soft, too stiff. For very heavy riders, the suspension is probably too soft and if they ride aggressively, they will scrape the pegs, etc. on hard cornering. I would suggest replacing the rear shock with one designed for one's weight if one is over 250 lbs. Some have complained that the suspension is too soft for serious track riding, and they put a different rear shock of their favorite make to solve their problem. Some of the rest of us think its the best suspension available for everyday riding--I especially like it on rough roads...very smooth. The 1050 is too tall for me, so I had the dealer install a German made lowering kit before I picked up the bike...I ordered the kit from Brabant Motors in the Netherlands...it lowers the bike about 1.5", and makes it just a little higher than my bonnie.

8. Chain guard too short: For some reason Mr. T decided (in all his infinite wisdom) to cut the chain guard 3 inches short at the rear. I haven't found this on any other Triumph. It is not too much of a problem if you use a good chain lube that doesn't sling off; however, riding in the rain is a whole different story. I purchased a combo chain guard/rear hugger that solved this problem for me. Some have tried various means of extending the chain guard. I have no idea if Mr. T corrected this for the '08 models.

9. Some engines burn oil: I believe this is true of most makes of internal combustion engines. I believe it was Bike magazine that ruined an engine by running it too low on oil because they didn't bother to check the oil. Some have said their 1050 burned some oil until around 5000 miles and then quit burning any oil. Mine has 3500 miles on it and it has not burned enough for me to tell when checking the dipstick.

10. There was a problem with the "computation of how many miles of fuel one has before empty" that is displayed on the instrument panel. This was "fixed" by a software change available with the tune downloads at the Triumph dealers.

11. Silencers: At first there were very few after-market silencers available--now there are many.

12. Hard luggage: The locks have been a major complaint on Triumph's hard bags. Many have gone to other brands of after-market luggage (soft or hard); however, many still agree that Mr. T's hard bags look the best on the bike. Some complain that the bags are too small (must be taking their wives with them). Some complain about the cost of the Triumph luggage--this is an often complaint about many Triumph accessories by some, but I have found that good quality after-market accessories cost about the same as Mr. T's.

13. Too Fast, Too slow, too much torque, not enough torque: What can I say...some complain that 150 mph is not fast enough, etc. Some even complain that the engine is turning too many rpms while they are cruising down the highway, so they change the front sprocket to a larger one...kinda like the bonneville riders on the Twin forum. I have found that mine turns about the same rpm in sixth as my bonneville does in 5th for the same mph. I cruise my bonnie between 5000 and 5500 rpm and I do the same on my 1050. I get 50+ mpg on my bonnie and 50+ mpg so far on the 1050. If I open the throttle in 6th gear while passing on a two-lane road like I do on the bonnie, I will be doing very near 120 mph when I pull back into my lane, so I have to modify my riding style a little or the cops will ask for a serious donation of funds.

IMHO, the guys that really ride a lot seldom spend much time on forums and hear little about all the complaints raised on the many forums.
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Great response, Larry! The only other things I've heard other than what you covered was the wimpy horn (no big deal), and the gear shift lever working loose (an easy fix but inconvenient if it happens on the road, must remember to check fasteners now and then).

I see you have the +7 CalSci screen and assume that was an attempt to deal with the noise and/or buffeting. How's it working for you? I'm seriously thinking about doing the cross-country run following the Bennington meet and one thing I'd like to fix is the buffeting; it's not bad on day runs, but after several days it's sort of noticable.

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Excellent and comprehensive response Larry. It's the case that web forums will attract many negative comments about a particular bike,not unique to Triumph. It is also probable that the majority of riders will spend more time riding than reading forums. Triumph must be doing something right because their latest models all receive excellent reviews and are selling well - particularly the Tiger and Street Triple. I know several Tiger1050 owners and they are very pleased with their bikes.One Tiger is using some oil,my Speed 3 uses ½ litre per 1000 miles (well wiyjin acceptable tolerance I'm told) but is the only one of 6 Hinckleys I've owned that has used any oil between services. If you want a bike that uses oil then try a BMW boxer engine - it's just the way they are. Or any classic bike. I think it is amazing how reliable modern bikes are. I have done 3 major European trips,total mileage 9000 miles,with groups of bikes from a variety of manufacturers.The bikes have coped with everything from weather,altitude,heavy loads,long days and even the Nurburgring,and we have never experienced any mechanical problems except a few punctures. All we did was fill them with petrol and ride.What more could we ask for ?
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I recently bought the UK mag "SuperBike". They had an article covering Triumph from 1995 - 2006/7. They mention "stories regarding the Tiger are starting to seep out". I was wondering if anyone's had any real issues with the new Tigers?

The only "real" issue I have is winter!! It's too freakin' cold to ride my Tiger 1050!!

In 40-odd years of riding I've never had a bike that was "perfect" for me, as purchased. The Tiger 1050 is no different, but it is the most fun starting point I've ever had!!


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I think you guys have covered just about all the comments I have heard about the Tiger. I have to agree that no bike is perfect, but for all kinds of roads, 95% with a pillion, its a very good starting point.

One other point to mention. A lot of guys are now coming forward having covered quite big mileages in the last 12 months (20.000 miles plus) with very few faults. This backs up my opinion that this bike would always be bought by all year round sports touring riders rather than Sunday afternoon types. Now, how many complaints do you hear about R1/GSXR/Fireblade......type bikes? not many other than they aren't fast enough (yawn) because that type of bike doesn't normally get ridden enough or cover the same miles.

So all this talk has got to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Also, when was the last time any magazine (especially a sports bike obsessed UK one) ever found fault with a Japanese sports bike?
It seems they do like to find fault with Triumphs though.

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Response on Calsci +7

Pete,
I am 5'8"--I don't know my seated height--my inseam is 29". I got no buffeting with either the stock or Triumph touring screens; however, I did get a lot of noise--too much to suit me. I decided to try the Calsci +7, and it cut the noise level to just a little above that of my bonnie--I have the Parabellum Scout fairing & 16" windshield on the bonnie. The "bug line" with the Calsci +7 starts just above my helmet visor--which is where I like it. No buffeting on the Calsci +7 for me.

I did a 150 mile ride today--it was 32 degrees F when I started and 42 degrees F when I got home. The windshield + heated grips + KTM handguards made for a comfortable ride.
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I agree with all that Larry said.

I'll add only one other problem. There isn't enough time in the day to enjoy this bike!
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My 2 biggest complaints are my engine burns oil goes from the top of the stick to the bottom in 1,000

And rust in my gas tank from the beginning and the dealer says triumph says it is not a problem
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I've been thinking about a 1050 for a while - currently have a 900i. I completely agree about the net being full of scare stories but the one thing that puts me off is the number of bikes consuming oil. If I go for a 1200 mile trip I dont want to have to worry about the oil, yet lots of people are reporting a litre of oil per 1000 miles (and many aren't!). My current tiger hasn't used any in the 5000 miles I've done on it. Everything else I can live with or customize, but the thought of getting one of the bikes that uses oil puts me off
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