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Admore Kit Turn Signals Not Blinking

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#1 ·
First off- I have working LED brake lights, dash lights & front & rear turn signals installed on my 2006 Tiger 955i. I also have the CF13GL-02 LED Bulb Electronic Flasher. All parts are from SuperBrightLEDs.com. In order for my signals to work I had to reverse the wires to the signal- after the bulbs & flasher were installed, of course.

I purchased a Givi E55 case, complete w/the plate w/the intention of installing an Admore Lighting kit to really brighten up my backside.

Does anyone else have this setup on their 955i w/the Admore kit & also have LEDs and a flasher installed?

The instructions for the Admore kit are pretty good, and I've gotten the brake/modulated brake light working perfectly. When I hit my turn signal switch on they light up, but they do not flash. Thinking I should try tapping the kit's positap into the other wire since I flipped the wires on my bike's brake bulb netted me the expected result of the Admore light not working at all...and an unnecessary pinhole in the ground wire's housing that I wrapped some electrical tape around.

The stale Admore turn signal light makes me think this should be a flasher issue, or some stupid wiring switcheroo. I've written Admore, but it's the weekend still, and I'm not really the patient type when trying to hammer out a problem. I would think the flasher unit I already installed would prevent this from happening since it has allowed all my other LED signals to function...

Any electrical folk or 955i riders sporting LEDs and an Admore kit have the key to this? I'm stumped.
 
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#3 ·
Okay--so does anyone have a 2006 955i that can check some voltage for me...or someone that knows their electrics? I want to know if the voltage varying between 5.87–13.5v on the rear turn signal wire when the turn signal is activated is okay. Admore says that my lights on their kit are not blinking because the voltage never completely goes down to 0. That makes sense to me, but I'm nothing near an electrician. Also-I've tried changing my lights and flasher back to stock to avoid any possibility that it's my flasher module or LED turn signals that are the issue, and the only time I ever get 0 voltage on either signal's wire is when the turn signals are not activated/switched. Both my stock signals and aftermarket LED signals have no issue blinking on and off, but the Admore kit's signal lights just go on and do not blink. Bike electrician please! :(
 
#4 ·
I think this one might be easy - check your relay - at least 2 other guys recently purchased the CF13GL-02 from SBL - and were sent the CF13JL-02 version.
If that is the case, you have two choices - ask for exchange (at least one of those guys was sent replacement without return requested) - or you can swap over the two terminals in the relay socket

Or - do you get the same issue with the stock relay?
 
#5 ·
Hey DEcosse- Thanks for the reply!

It's the same issue with the stock flasher. I swapped it back to the stock module to eliminate that as the source of the issue. Unfortunately, it is not the problem.

Is the current for the signals supposed to cut all the way down to 0v when they blink? The only time I had 0v going through my signal wires is when the turn signals aren't activated. I don't have any issues with the stock bulbs or LEDs in my signals blinking (w/proper flasher & wires to bulbs swapped) even though the voltage never completely cuts out to 0v.
 
#6 ·
They should go to 0V - it's not so much that 'ground' is being switched, just that the signal goes open (so it will naturally go to zero through the device)
Your meter may be fooling you - although is a fairly long* cycle time, it may be averaging between the 12V and 0.
So your new relay was definitely the correct one? At least that's good - I think someone at SBL had mixed the boxes up! :D

* long in this instance is referring to the duty cycle of the flasher switching. A DC meter, may not be reacting quickly enough.
If you turn switch off, does the signal go to zero?

Here's a test you can try - pull the relay and connect a bridge between the supply and output terminals;
then use your switch to connect to either side;
Do all your lights (turns and the new module) light correctly? They should, and of course remain on (since you have given them a fixed signal instead of switching)
 
#7 ·
When the switch is off, the voltage goes right to 0.

You kind of lost me on the "bridge" part of your suggestion...what is that? Is that like wire you'd stick in it to connect the terminals or something after I pull the relay out? I'm not well educated on electrical things.

What I'm suggesting is feeding the circuit with a constant 12V, rather than a switching voltage. That will at least validate that all the lamps light as supposed to.

Question - does the ardmore kit work properly with the OEM signals connected? (whether with OEM or the CF13GL-02 relay)

Although it made no difference with the OEM relay, did you actually check the ID on the actual LED relay to be sure it IS the CF13GL-02?
 
#9 ·
Question - does the ardmore kit work properly with the OEM signals connected? (whether with OEM or the CF13GL-02 relay)

No. The signal lights still do not flash.

Although it made no difference with the OEM relay, did you actually check the ID on the actual LED relay to be sure it IS the CF13GL-02?

No, I didn't check the ID on the LED flasher module. I only pulled it to swap it back to stock to see if the flasher was the cause of the trouble. After swapping it and checking the turn wire voltages with the OEM setup & testing out the Admore lighting kit again, I swapped it back. I have no reason to believe it isn't the CF13GL-02 since it's worked fine for about a year now.
 
#11 ·
Admore Lighting gave me a buzz today...seems this is a first. They're seeing the folks from Twisted Throttle this weekend & they're going to see if the TT folks have any ideas as to what the issue may be. It may just be a bad wiring harness. If so, I should be getting a replacement next week. I imagine that's probably going to be the case.

I'll just be happy to get this worked out and installed on my Givi E55. I bought my topcase, Givi plate & Admore kit at once, so it wasn't the cheapest investment I could've made. I didn't expect to be troubleshooting the lights like this...or having to get a replacement for the trim on my case that came cracked from Givi. I have been pretty happy with the customer service responses I've gotten from both companies, though. Givi had a new trim piece to me within a couple days. I'm really hoping to have working lights in my case by the end of next week.
 
#14 ·
Does anyone's turn signal wire voltage actually go all the way to 0 when it's blinking?

I'm still wondering if that's somehow part of the issue. Mine doesn't appear to, but my OEM & LEDs (w/proper flasher module installed) blink properly despite the voltage never appearing to drop all the way to zero when the switch is activated. Maybe it's just an inaccuracy of my $30 meter, but I wanted to see if anyone else has checked or knows what the voltage is on the rear turn signal wires when the switch is activated. If this is the norm, it'd certainly make me feel more confident that a new wiring harness from Admore will be the trick to get things working correctly. I haven't ever had any electrical issues with my bike, so I have no reason to think the issue is with the bike.
 
#15 ·
Still no word back from Admore. Tired of waiting. I really hope they've already shipped a new lighting kit my way, but they're getting an unhappy e-mail from me regardless. This should have been resolved by now...by sending a new kit, which I'd already asked for over a week ago. Apparently they're still in the camp that it couldn't possibly be their product. It must be my bike!
 
#16 ·
Well, folks, unhappy e-mails can sometimes work pretty fast...or is it long threads on popular Triumph websites? I got a call from Admore last night. Nope- new kit is NOT on the way. Sounds like they've just been blowing me off, or forgotten me at best. They agreed to replace the kit...but not without a deposit for the new kit, or I can ship the old back to them & they'll send me a new one. Opted for the latter option. I'm not locking up more of my money with them. The E55 lighting kit was about $150 shipped after my ADVRIDER discount. I now await a USPS label from Admore to return the kit to Alberta. I'm really baffled by why this has been so freaking difficult. Product defective - make it right! Instead we've dragged this out for several weeks, including a very nice Memorial Day weekend I was hoping to have working LED lights fitted to my topcase (which I purchased specifically for the additionally lighting to be provided by the Admore kit (~$400 for plate & case)).

Additionally, although there have been few responses to this particular thread, well over 300 people (or 300+views) have clicked to check out what's been going on with my kit. I can't imagine this is very good advertising for the company. I would like to say they're doing everything they can to make things right, but I get an uber-strong feeling of denial coming from the North. That it must be something other than the kit. I understand this a little bit, but at this point I should've RECEIVED a replacement. I shouldn't have to explain to someone else's company how to send me a return label. I shouldn't have to explain that the only thing we haven't tried is SWAPPING the kit. Instead, I'm getting mistrust from whether I was able to follow to super easy instructions included with their kit to whether they're going to receive their defective product back from me when they send a new one.

This has been an exhausting experience. It's been extremely different than another recent swap experience I had where Atomos- an awesome company in the video production world - sent me a $1300 device to swap for their defective old one after a pretty quick back & forth Q&A with their customer service people over the course of a day or two. Received new, sent back my old one. No issues. Everybody's happy! Atomos even commented how impressed with how quickly they received their defective unit back from me. Why I'm having issues returning a $150 bunch of wires & lights I have no use for to Admore is quite beyond me. I now wait for an e-mail with a return label to send this back. I'll let everyone know how long this seemingly small portion of this process takes.
 
#19 ·
Here's the update- I'M STILL WAITING!!!!! Admore never sent me a USPS label. Instead they called me over a month ago, told me that they would refund me $10 to cover return shipping to them because nobody there was able to get USPS's site or whatever to work (And apparently they couldn't pick up a phone to get it fixed with USPS, either.). Additionally, I was told they would replace the unit with a new one. Admore received my package over a week ago after about a week sitting in customs. This past week, they e-mailed me to see what I'd like to do- that they tested the unit & it works fine & it simply must be that my bike is customized in such a way that it's my fault.

Here is their response-

"Sorry for the delay in responding. There is nothing wrong with the kit that you sent us and accordingly it is not reasonable for you to expect us to send you a brand new kit. In addition, we do not reimburse shipping costs for warranty claims - and particularly in this case as there is nothing wrong with your light kit it is not reasonable to expect us to do so. There is clearly some modification on your bike that is not compatible with our light kit. We would be happy to return your light kit to you (at our expense) or alternatively give you a full refund (less the original shipping cost). Please let us know your preference.

Thanks and regards,

--
AdMore Lighting Inc."

Needless to say, I'm not happy with them. I followed their directions, did all the testing they requested and provided all my data. They made a promise, and now they're acting like the pain in the ass I'd thought I was dealing with all along. They're now saying they're unwilling to replace the kit with a replacement kit, as promised. DELAY, DELAY, DELAY!!! So again I'm waiting to receive a response to my e-mail telling them to stick to their word - which'll probably take another week or more to receive via e-mail. If the returned kit is in such great condition, why would it be a problem to replace it as promised with another kit??? This has gone on since the beginning of May. Doesn't it make more business sense to try and keep customers that have placed orders instead of deterring new ones that hear about unresolved problems & major customer service issues?

This is absolutely the worst experience I've ever had with a Canadian vendor, period.
 
#20 ·
So...after much grief & having non-blinking signals in my top case for far too long...and a ton of reading electrical forums online...I have the solution to the issue. I added 2 50W 6 Ohm resistors onto the kit & now having functioning top box signals. I didn't want to poke more holes into my stock signal wires, so I tapped into the Admore Lighting Kit's wires. One of the resistors end connected to the wire for the left signal (yellow wire), the other side of it connected to the Admore Kit's ground wire (black wire), and then tapped that black one again for the other 2nd resistor's ground, and the wire for the right signal's positive wire (green wire). I really would've hoped Dave at Admore would've had this solution handy (owning a company that sells electrical kits for bikes & all). Instead he was a pain in the ass, so I found the solution myself. Hope this helps somebody else!
 
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