Triumphrat

Mutley · 06-02-2004

I am off to France tomorrow for a long weekend and just need a bit of suspension advice from the more experienced owners of our bikes, I am taking the wife & full luggage

I have taken this from the manual, I have up the Rebound damping load 1 full turn clockwise 5, the manual is not clear, is it a 360 turn or 1 click.

I have also adjusted the preload as per the instructions to level 5 on the indicator.

Have you guys got any experience with suspension set up when taking a pillion and luggage, plus the rebound is it count by clicks or a full 360 turn of the screw, cheers for the help

Ohlins is so much easier

Mutley

BigStripey · 06-02-2004

Mutley

Firstly, you may find 5 (max) on the Pre-load setting a bit too much. A lot will depend on your combined weights (dangerous ground here i'll go no further.....) but my experience two up has been that a little over 4 is ok.
Also it will depend on what type of riding you will mainly be doing?

If you are going to be hooning around in the mountains etc, then it may be as well to wind up the preload. But if you are just mile munching, then go for the softer option for overall comfort.

Trial and error wins the day i think, start on the softer side and wind it up until you are comfortable with it, because it will make for a firm ride if you jump straight in at 5

Rebound damping i went up one click 'Clockwise' on the adjuster which is 180 degrees of turn or thereabouts. But again your choice between comfort and performance comes into play. Unless you notice any significant handling issues, i would leave any adjustment of the rebound to a minimum.

Just my thoughts...

Jim

Mutley · 06-02-2004

Jim I have set the rebound from fully screwed in clockwise, then took 5 clicks anti clockwise, is this correct, I just cant tell if anti clockwise or clock wise is full screwed in :???:

I dont want to shove off having any probs, I am off to Gardermer as I have been told it has some great roads over that part of France :-D

Mutley

djr · 06-02-2004

from my manual it states Rider only pre-load = 2 rebound = 6

rider, passenger and luggage pre-load =5 rebound =3

"all rebound figures are expressed as turns out from the fully screwed in position. the bike is delivered from the factory with this set to 6 turns out from fully in.

To adjust rebound rotate the adjuster clockwise to increase and anti-clockwise to decrease

BigStripey · 06-02-2004

The Triumph manual is fine in it's basic assumptions, but i still think it best that you 'experiment' to find what works best for you. Only one 'click' difference on the rebound is not going to make a world of difference unless you really understand what rebound does?, will you really be able to notice the adjustment? Will you notice the milli-second difference in the speed that the suspension returns to normal after compression?

Pre-load however is different, and will definately impact on your riding. Try the pre-load at just over 4 and see what it feels like. If it feels like it is wallowing too much and the front end is going a bit light too often, then crank it up eventually to the maximum setting of 5.

I found that a combined weight of 26 stone plus luggage was fine on about 4.5. I DID notice the difference when i cranked it right up, it really was quite a firm ride!

Try it out, it only takes a moment with the 10mm spanner. You want to be comfortable during the holiday, and the bike handling properly?

Have a great time, weather is set fair, and the area you are foo to does have some great roads indeed. Remember to take the camera and share them with us when you get back

Cheers

Jim

Mutley · 06-02-2004

Jim & DJR thanks a lot lads I am used to setting a race bike but this is a little different and I never carried luggage :-D before.

I will take lots of pics but I will have to get my mate to email any Digi ones as we dont have a Digi cam yet, on the list just not got round to it.

I willreport back as Si is on trhe mighty 1150 GS, so let see if a little Tiger power can put it down a couple of pegs :-D

Let you know how it goes.

Mutley

djr · 06-03-2004

have agreat trip. I personally found one up with loads of luggage that standard was fine for most areas. two up I would guess it would need to be tweaked a bit.

Will you notice one turn difference. I certainly did on the TT600. I tried all sorts of settings and eventually got some from a board contributer whos TT was tested and set up for a magazine article. This set-up transformed the bike completely and I was much happier with it after the changes.

suspension set up is a black art as far as I am concerned but it does make big differences even with tiny adjustments but no two bikes are the same. I had two brand new 03 Tigers within months and even on standard settings they felt considerably different. The second being much better than the original.

Tigris · 10-02-2004

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On 2004-06-02 09:01, djr wrote:
from my manual it states Rider only pre-load = 2 rebound = 6
rider, passenger and luggage pre-load =5 rebound =3

"all rebound figures are expressed as turns out from the fully screwed in position. the bike is delivered from the factory with this set to 6 turns out from fully in.

When I adjusted the rebound for the first time I counted the clicks: 6. That means the bike was delivered from the factory set to 6 clicks (not six 360-degrees turns) out from fully screwed in position. Well, that's not the only contradiction in the owner's manual (e.g. chain free play when riding solo/fully loaded or there's lots of ridiculous warnings but I haven't found any instructions how to remove the fuel tank).

tango · 10-02-2004

Tigris,

Fuel Tank removal.

1. Remove the seats and disconnect the battery, remove the battery from its case.
2. Remove the battery case.
3. Remove the fuel tank in-fill panels, both sides.
4. On the right hand side, gently lift the rear edge of the panel in order to clear the recess in the fuel tank. Slide the panel down and towards the rear of the motor cycle to release the retaining tag situated at the front of the panel.
5. Left side, as above.
6. Leaving the front indicators attached. detatch the cockpit side panels from the fuel tank and cockpit.
7. From the left hand side of the fuel tank dissconect:-
. Both fuel hoses.
. The vacuum hose to the fuel presure regulator, (if fitted)
. The electrical connector to the fuel pump.
. The fuel tankdrain hose and the connection to the roll-over valve (where fitted), I tend not to remove these.
8. On the right hand side of the fuel tank, disconnect the fuel level sender.
9. Release the bolts securing the fuel tank to the frame.
10. Place the handle bars in the staight ahead position.
11. To remove the fuel tank, raise the tank, lifting the rear more than the front. When the rear of the tank is clear of the rear susspension unit bridge, move the tank upwards and rearwards to remove completely.

The above was taken directly from the Tiger 955 service manual.

It really is a pretty staightforward job, but be careful when disconecting the fuel lines from the tank they are easilly broken, do not twist them, I've had my tank off at least 6 times without bother. But I know they are going to break sometime.

The other thing to consider, the job is much easier if the the tank is empty, but you might still get some spillage so be prepared for that.

Todays top tip, before replacing the battery put a large cable tie round it so there is something to grip the next time you take it out.

Hope all this helps you, and good luck.

Tigris · 10-02-2004

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On 2004-10-02 07:26, tango wrote:
Tigris,
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It really is a pretty staightforward job, but be careful when disconecting the fuel lines from the tank they are easilly broken, do not twist them, I've had my tank off at least 6 times without bother. But I know they are going to break sometime.

The other thing to consider, the job is much easier if the the tank is empty, but you might still get some spillage so be prepared for that.
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Thanks a lot for the information, Tango.

By saying "be careful when disconnecting the fuel lines from the tank" do you mean the "quick release fuel connectors" mentioned in the recall notification? I haven't got the recall notification yet as I bought my Tigger in September so that the original connectors haven't been replaced.

By the way, what is the best way to empty the fuel tank (at the moment there is about 5-10 litres fuel in the tank and I have to drain the tank before the winter storage)?