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Old 11-15-2012, 01:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Am shocked to see all these figures up at 40mpg and above. Unless I can't do math, mine is getting nowhere near that. I envy you all! Mine is the 800 XC 2011 late 2011 model in case your wondering.

I get max 140 miles out of a tank of London riding. So split that across the 5 us gallon size of the tank, and I am returning 28MPG!!!

I have an Arrow Exhaust, no baffle and arrow map, but this seems scary low to me.....especially as I don't get to really enjoy the performance stopping and starting all the time in traffic etc... But then again guess that just shows what short journeys and traffic do to your MPG!!
Unless you flog the hell out of your bike I would have it checked out.
No reason you shouldn't get 40 mpg minimum.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Am shocked to see all these figures up at 40mpg and above. Unless I can't do math, mine is getting nowhere near that. I envy you all! Mine is the 800 XC 2011 late 2011 model in case your wondering.

I get max 140 miles out of a tank of London riding. So split that across the 5 us gallon size of the tank, and I am returning 28MPG!!!

I have an Arrow Exhaust, no baffle and arrow map, but this seems scary low to me.....especially as I don't get to really enjoy the performance stopping and starting all the time in traffic etc... But then again guess that just shows what short journeys and traffic do to your MPG!!
Were you really unimpressed with the stock exhaust and engine mapping? I guess I am an old man, but this scoot really impresses me! The Tiger is faster "off the line" than my BMW; both are stock.

Below I've tried to calculate my USA MPG figures into your UK figures, although I am not quite sure if I'm using the correct gallons. I did this first the easy way, directly converting my 44 mp(US)g to your mp(UK) gallons:
44 mpg USA = 52.8 mpg UK, according to HERE.
If I were to get 28 mpg in the USA, that would indicate 33.6 mpg using the UK gallons.

If I used exactly 5.0 US gallons to ride 140 miles, my USA MPG would be 28 mpg as you indicated.....but I think something somewhere must be wrong.....either your math, or mine, or a problems somewhere with how we're trying to convert (type of miles) per (type of gallons) to (another type of miles) per (another type of gallons). Confused? I am.....why in the world do we Yanks and you Brits not use use the metric system!

One possibility is you are assuming you've used exactly 5.0 US gallons to cover 140 (US) miles.....but I don't recall ever putting that much fuel in my tank......usually I top off soon after seeing a "Low Fuel" indication, and I put around 4 gallons in. If I had used 4 gallons to go 140 miles, my (USA) MPG would be 35, a bit better. But if I added only 3.5 gallons, my MPG would be 40....closer to what others are reporting.

I'd suggest not using the motorbike's computer, but just taking the indicated miles traveled on a quantity of fuel, and dividing that by exactly the amount of fuel you used. Maybe there is an issue with your computer? Or that you're just assuming you'd added exactly five gallons? Hope I am not coming across as condescending........
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:47 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Am shocked to see all these figures up at 40mpg and above. Unless I can't do math, mine is getting nowhere near that. I envy you all! Mine is the 800 XC 2011 late 2011 model in case your wondering.

I get max 140 miles out of a tank of London riding. So split that across the 5 us gallon size of the tank, and I am returning 28MPG!!!

I have an Arrow Exhaust, no baffle and arrow map, but this seems scary low to me.....especially as I don't get to really enjoy the performance stopping and starting all the time in traffic etc... But then again guess that just shows what short journeys and traffic do to your MPG!!
I had the same issue with a 2011 XC. I'm not sure when it was built but it was one of the first orange ones with silver frame to make it over here. With side cases on at highway speeds I was having to find fuel every 130 miles. The dealer checked it out, everything seemed to be fine. The low MPG was annoying enough for me to trade it in but a couple of weeks ago I bought a left over 2012 800, I hope to have better luck on the second try.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:29 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Check that you have the latest map updates. The engine hasn't changed between the first 2011 and the 2013 models, just the fuel mappings are up to date, but you can do that to every Tiger 800.

The Arrow map, especially the early ones were abysmal on fuel. They got better with newer maps, as did the standard exhaust maps, so make sure you are on the latest one.

Oh, and yes, in city riding the Tiger is especially bad. Commute (5 miles) only vs. touring only is a difference of more than 10mpg (US) for me. City commute is really, really bad.
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:09 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I was to look between the TIger 800 and the KTM 990 SM-T. Somebody tell me that the KTM was a fuel eater at 38-40mpg, but if the Tiger is more fuel eater than a KTM, the choice will be easy....SM-T 990
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:40 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I had the same issue with a 2011 XC. .......
I cannot fault you on your choise of mounts!

I'm optimistic you'll get better mileage with the 2012 Tiger.

Are you getting good mileage with the RT? I consistently get about 45-50 mpg (USA) with my '09 RT. My 2006 model got about the same. Of course, that's using premium fuel compared to the regular I use in the Tiger.
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Am shocked to see all these figures up at 40mpg and above. Unless I can't do math, mine is getting nowhere near that. I envy you all! Mine is the 800 XC 2011 late 2011 model in case your wondering.

I get max 140 miles out of a tank of London riding. So split that across the 5 us gallon size of the tank, and I am returning 28MPG!!!

I have an Arrow Exhaust, no baffle and arrow map, but this seems scary low to me.....especially as I don't get to really enjoy the performance stopping and starting all the time in traffic etc... But then again guess that just shows what short journeys and traffic do to your MPG!!
My bike isn't quite broken in yet (640mi) and I just did 200.6 mi on 1 tank (4.34GALs.)

Your loss of fuel economy is likely from your Arrow map calibrations. Or, it might be the wheelies!

I made the same mistake with my Harley years ago. Shoulda left it alone and I'd get 50+MPG instead of 32MPG. (But it has run problem free for >100,000miles...)
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City traffic is super bad with the Tiger. It takes a much bigger hit than my F800GS took when commuting. The rest might be Arrow map (I would get that updated, too, because there were improvements over time), and right hand behavior.

Again, I get 48mpg US on my Tiger over more than 4k miles ... I'm not riding crazy, 90% backroads and small highways, no big freeway blasts, barely any city riding. That makes a HUGE difference.
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I cannot fault you on your choise of mounts!

I'm optimistic you'll get better mileage with the 2012 Tiger.

Are you getting good mileage with the RT? I consistently get about 45-50 mpg (USA) with my '09 RT. My 2006 model got about the same. Of course, that's using premium fuel compared to the regular I use in the Tiger.
I've had 3 1200 RTs and have averaged in the mid 40s on all of them. With just 200 miles on the new Tiger, so far I'm getting 37 mpg.
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I've had 3 1200 RTs and have averaged in the mid 40s on all of them. With just 200 miles on the new Tiger, so far I'm getting 37 mpg.
Ahhh, sounds like riding style. I haved owned both BMW R1200RTs and a Tiger 800 ABS Roadie. I get right at 48-50 on the Beamer and 45 (only 2000 miles) on the Tiger. These are US gallons and US miles.
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