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Old 09-18-2012, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd like to get a tiger... thoughts on adventure bikes in general...

I'm thinking, after my first riding season, that maybe next year I'll trade my beloved Street Triple up (... down... sideways?) for a Tiger, most likely a 1050, as I want to do more long distance riding. I just wanted to lay out my thoughts on adventure bikes, and maybe get some clarification from those who ride them.

I guess I'm just trying to figure out why it is that I want an "adventure touring" bike, when really I'll be just using it for LD touring, with maybe the occasional logging road. I don't know why, but I have zero attraction to the Sprint, Trophy, or any other ST bike. Maybe it's because I don't like full fairings or sport bikes, and ST bikes just look like chubbier versions of those. I like the idea of sitting up high, with high bars and a comfortable riding position. I figure if I really want to go offroad, I'll just buy a Kawi SuperSherpa for 1500 bucks and really ride the hell out of it. If it dies, I won't be crushed. Even if I got an 800XC, I'd be hesitant to take it offroad after paying over $11K.

The Explorer is a bike that kind of fascinates me, because I don't quite understand it. Why put all the offroad looking stuff on a bike that quite frankly shouldn't be ridden offroad? I'll likely have some people disagree with me (probably people who have actually ridden it, so I'll defer to them), but a lot of the comments seem to make it clear. It has incredible low end torque and a twitchy fly-by-wire throttle that would easily send the bike flying if you went over a log and bounced your wrist even slightly. So I'm pretty surprised that now they're making an Explorer XC!

I think some adventure bikes are starting to be a bit like SUV's. Maybe that's how I'd treat mine, anyway: big and comfy, great for long trips, and rugged looking, but in the end, other than a few forays and camping trips, it'd stay on the paved.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Many people sold their sprint & bought the Tiger 1050 because it's more comfortable. If your going to buy something new, then test ride a 1050 & the Explorer. It will be obvious which one to buy.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I traded-in my T100 for a Tiger 1050 a couple of months back for similar reasons. I looked at the Explorer and the Tiger 800s, but didn't want to pay what they were selling for. I settled for a used 2010 Tiger and couldn't be happier.


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Old 09-18-2012, 11:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good Subject

This is a good subject.

I was looking for an adventure bike from the beginning of the year. I need a bike that I can still do the long haul on (meaning highway miles) yet take off road. Now after reviewing as many bike as possible and doing several test rides and taking into account my own riding needs, this is what I decided:

I don't need a dedicated XC bike, when I go off road it will be on dirt roads, some fire roads, etc. No single track or creek beds. If I want to do that I would get a little 250cc scrambler and haul it around in the back of the truck. Been there, done that and it is a blast!

I do need a bike that has the power to ride on the highways and put the miles in that I ride. I need a bike that can haul my 210 lbs and all of my gear.

Face it even the folks that ride an 800 rarely take them off the pavement.

For me, the Explorer with the power of its 1200cc engine, the comfortable seat, the large windscreen, large panniers and cruise control fit the bill. Everything I need to ride across the country but still take it into the woods.

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Old 09-19-2012, 06:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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[QUOTE=Ĉon;2371683]The Explorer ....... has incredible low end torque and a twitchy fly-by-wire throttle that would easily send the bike flying if you went over a log and bounced your wrist even slightly. [QUOTE]

I've only ridden it on asphalt, but at low speed & low revs I found that the f-b-w throttle operated with a very gentle response. It was like ridng a Honda 90 (yes, really). When the revs are higher the throttle response sharpens up.

Yes, I liked the Explorer but my Tiger 1050 also felt good immediately after the Explorer test ride!
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Agreed, this is a good subject

But it seems on here, we all have such a different idea of what "adventure" touring entails ?? And what you need in a bike to do it ??

I agree, who would spend £12,000 on a brand new bike, take it off road, drop it, and cause thousands of pounds of damage ?? (In best Spock voice) It's not logical, it does not compute ??

Some of us want comfort, carrying capability, and fuel range to actually go somewhere without worrying if we can make it ?? To others adventure riding is something completely different ??
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Went back and forth myself on this for over a year. Wanted a adv bike for kids to learn on and for me to ride on my "adventures". Bought a Wee strom for middle son to learn on, great bike but not enough power for me, middle son left a year early for special forces training so I traded that bike for a Hayabusa (plenty of power), still had one more son at home to train, began looking at another wee and a 800 Beemer, went to Beemer dealer (first time there) that also sold Triumphs and found a left over 11 Sprint GT 1050, great bike for kid to learn on and other sons to ride when they visit. Never considered a Triumph in my life prior to this bike, I am still pleasantly surprised by the value you get from Triumphs as far as power and braking on the Sprint and the Tiger 800. Began looking at a Tiger 800 after looking at the S 10, Explorer, Tiger 1050 (great bike too), 1200 GS, and the Vstrom 1000, then decided on the 800 Roadie. It has ABS, plenty of power, found a demo for $9200 OTD, already had first service, and is a great all around bike, babysht yellow, but hey, you wont see many at bike nights. Only thing I would like vs what all the other bikes have on them is the cruise control from the Explorer.

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Tiger 800 vs Explorer = Half price
Tiger 800 vs Beemer 1200 = almost 1/3rd price
Tiger 800 vs Beemer 800 = more power down low, spoked wheels, 2/3rds price
Tiger 800 vs Vstrom 1000 = ABS
Tiger 800 vs S10 = weight & price
Tiger 800 vs XC = spoked wheels, will never own spoked wheels again, been stranded in hail storm once on my Road King in the middle of nowhere, never again, plug and go from now on.

As far as radical off road adventure, I have road my last two Ultra's on various trips to the north west and west on many dirt roads, probably 5 thousand miles on fire roads/dirt roads and the Alcan over the years. If you want real adventure get a 450 enduro or one of the other equivalents before you get too old and broken up to do radical adventure. One truism, when a Alcan road snake throws you off your bike at 3 am its easier to lift the Tiger 800 than it is the Ultra.

Only feature on all the other bikes I would like is the cruise control from the Explorer. This is not meant to disparage the above bikes in any way its just my criteria for choosing.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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There is a reasonably good chance that a Gold Wing is more comfortable than a Tiger 800. Anything else and I would have my doubts.

To get more weather protection you usually have to accept a massive increase in weight.

That is why I bought a relatively small ADV. It still hauls my stuff and passes cars like they're standing still.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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When you live in my part of the world then your choice of bike and vehicle is determined by other factors, which is the least likely bike to get stolen, a BMW or Triumph, Ducati, probably not, spares and services costs too much

I bought the 800 XC knowing that most of my time will be spent on the road however our roads are bad in places and potholes are as common as dishwater so the spoked rims was a favourite compared to the roadie but also knowing that if I wanted to take the bike offroad I could and that she would probably handle it far better than a non adventure bike would.

Having owned a BMW 1200 prior to the Tiger 800 XC, the sheer weight of the 1200's in general, any brand, limits one to where and what you can do with it off road however on road, the 1200's weight becomes its advantage as less wind buffeting and rider comfort takes over.

There is no answer really, ideal is to have two bikes, one for touring and one to have some fun with
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:16 PM   #10 (permalink)
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/I like the idea of sitting up high, with high bars and a comfortable riding position....

I think some adventure bikes are starting to be a bit like SUV's. Maybe that's how I'd treat mine, anyway: big and comfy, great for long trips, and rugged looking, but in the end, other than a few forays and camping trips, it'd stay on the paved.
Bingo. But they're not nearly as played out as SUV's: you can go weeks without seeing one.

Bottom line is they are a triumph of function over form and many of them are flat terrific bikes.
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