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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-07-2017, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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Tiger 800 ignition key in givi trekker topcase

So I bought an XRX, but I haven't received it yet. It's in transit. The seller did send the keys, title etc on ahead of the bike. It has the new Outback panniers on it keyed to the ignition key, there is one extra lock cylinder keyed to the ignition.

I bought the outback topcase and I tried to install the third cylinder, it's doesn't look like it will fit without a different sleeve.

I did a Google search and a search of this forum but didn't find a thread that resolved the issue?

Any ideas? It has to be possible as the other bags are keyed this way.
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So, are the panniers actually Givi or are they the rebranded Triumph panniers? The Triumph lock cylinders will ONLY fit in the rebranded Triumph luggage they WILL NOT fit in the Givi branded luggage.

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Well wouldn't there have to be a part that triumph adds, that I could buy, and install on the givi branded top case (seems it only needs a lock cylinder sleeve) to make the cylinder work in Givi as triumph has.
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Nope, it was done on purpose to force people into the Triumph branded luggage if they wanted one key to work everything.

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Also the Givi luggage doesn't mount onto the Triumph branded racks and vice versa.

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GearHd6, a couple of things...I wish you would work on your responses. At times they come across as more aggressive than helpful. You also didn't stay on point. My original question asked about topcases and your last response is talking about side case racks? And third, you're wrong. I just ordered the triumph latch mechanism for $42.00 from my local shop. It is for the outback trekker top case and accepts the triumph lock cylinder.
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If it comes across aggressive then you'll have to read them without an aggressive tone because there's nothing aggressive about them. Most of my posting comes from my cell phone so I don't type extra to sugar coat things.

And no, I wasn't wrong in relation to your question, there is no sleeve to make the Triumph cylinders work. You had to order more parts to make something work. So if someone bought Givi panniers and top box they'd have to spend $135 more to make the keys work.

And I stated that the panniers don't fit for reference for others that may find this in a Google search. There's a locating lug that doesn't line up when mixing and matching.

Post back here with some pictures because the internet is littered with threads and posts of how people weren't able to make anything work. Maybe Triumph has recently made individual parts available?
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Gearhead is right! Ok so in our group we have both givi and triumph luggage. Outer lookwise besides the badging you would not be able to tell the difference. Visually also the boxes and fitments look the same. But the triumph lock spins in and fits and the givi lock gets inserted and tightened with a screw.
Secondly if you have already bought a outback top case it will not fit on the original triumph plate on the back of the bike. again if you will look the tabs will be same but you will have to move the tab a bit closer for it to fit properly.
Can you post a pic of the bike with luggage? In all probability it has the triumph luggage on it if it is keyed to ignition! The luggage is made by Givi but a few millimetres of difference in fitting which prevents it from locking onto the rails.
If these guys have figured a way out then also post for benefit of others
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I had tried the same thing. The tumblers/lock cylinders for the Givi and Triumph branded cases are different lengths and have different internal tips. If you are able to get them to work on the same key/tumbler/lock cylinder, I'd love to know! I hate carrying extra keys if I don't have to.
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I think now if you find the Triumph branded parts breakdown for their luggage you can now buy the latch piece that accepts the lock cylinder and swap out the Givi piece.

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