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Old 12-07-2012, 03:30 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 12-07-2012, 04:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's really too bad, but, whatever. If the bike is good, it's no biggie because I do my own service work.

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Old 12-09-2012, 11:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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It's amazing how efficient the 800XC is. I just did a 350 mile trip leading a rider with a new Striple. They had only 60 miles when we started our run. The route included climbs of 6600', 7700', and 8300'. Starting from sea level. I rode in excess of 224 miles before filling up. Then again, I use a fuel stabilizer that burns the fuel completely, thus increasing power and range.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:09 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Fuel stabilizer - what brand, etc.?

Norty, what sort of "fuel stabilizer" do you use? Brand? Can you describe what you feel are the benefits a little more thoroughly, and perhaps note its price, usage (e.g., how much per tank)?

I'm with the fellow member who basically doesn't trust motorcycle fuel gauges. I also reset the trip meter (or use the GPS device for gauging fuel consumption).

I have a BMW with a so-called "known issue" of a fuel strip sensor going south - it did, fairly recently, and I was stuck (and fortunately it was a warranty repair, because it's an expensive fix, and fortunately I was in the city and not out in the desert!).

Having been riding since gauges were not to be found on any bike, I guess I've never really progressed past "trust, but verify..!"
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Have to say that I've got used to the count down display i.e. miles to empty. I don't even look at the bars on the gauge as it's too coarse a measure because each bar stays on for about 30 miles. It's been pretty reliable even if it does under estimate how far you can go.........which is a good thing. It also compensates automatically for the right wrist problems that can occur with this bike.
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Norty, what sort of "fuel stabilizer" do you use? Brand? Can you describe what you feel are the benefits a little more thoroughly, and perhaps note its price, usage (e.g., how much per tank)?

I'm with the fellow member who basically doesn't trust motorcycle fuel gauges. I also reset the trip meter (or use the GPS device for gauging fuel consumption).

I have a BMW with a so-called "known issue" of a fuel strip sensor going south - it did, fairly recently, and I was stuck (and fortunately it was a warranty repair, because it's an expensive fix, and fortunately I was in the city and not out in the desert!).

Having been riding since gauges were not to be found on any bike, I guess I've never really progressed past "trust, but verify..!"
Without sounding like a salesman, the stuff I use is PRI-G. Made by Power Research Inc.
The mix ratio is 2000:1.
Been using the stuff in all my vehicles since 1989 (or so.)
The stuff smells terrible (organic chemistry, ya know) but it works very well.
I found out about this stuff while working in the petro industry.
I primarily use Shell's V-Power or Chevron's Premium. (Here in Calif, they both have a RON of 91.)
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Just ordered some from Amazon. I am wondering, Norty, how you use it; do you put a few drops in the tank when you fill up (if so, how many), or do you mix it beforehand? Thanks! According to the reviews on Amazon, it is really good stuff....
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It's amazing how efficient the 800XC is. I just did a 350 mile trip leading a rider with a new Striple. They had only 60 miles when we started our run. The route included climbs of 6600', 7700', and 8300'. Starting from sea level. I rode in excess of 224 miles before filling up. Then again, I use a fuel stabilizer that burns the fuel completely, thus increasing power and range.
How much fuel capacity does the triple have? What is the "normal" mileage?

Gotta be skeptical. I always wondered why if many of these snake oils (and similar items, like fuel line magnets) are not oem items.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:44 AM   #19 (permalink)
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How much fuel capacity does the triple have? What is the "normal" mileage?

Gotta be skeptical. I always wondered why if many of these snake oils (and similar items, like fuel line magnets) are not oem items.
19 litres capacity and I quite regularly get to 200 miles on a tankful. I agree. At the sort of altitude he says they rode, the bike will be using significantly less fuel because of the lack of oxygen up there. I always get 10~15% better mileage when riding in the Alps.


I reckon it's not the snake oil that giving the good mileage but the Shell V-power that he uses.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:17 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Just ordered some from Amazon. I am wondering, Norty, how you use it; do you put a few drops in the tank when you fill up (if so, how many), or do you mix it beforehand? Thanks! According to the reviews on Amazon, it is really good stuff....
Since the ratio is 2000:1, that means 1 ounce to 16 gallons (US).
Ideally, you should start with a quarter tank, treat the full capacity of the tank, then fill it up.

On subsequent fillups, just estimate how much gas you'll be putting in and add enough treatment for that amount.

Whatever you do, do not overtreat as it won't work as well and you'll be wasting money.

Many years ago,we did an inhouse test with a Cummins N14 (444). (Using the diesel product, PRI-D,) we found after many thousands of miles of testing (after acquiring a baseline,) that each bottle (32oz.) was worth 80 gallons of diesel fuel. This is back when diesel was <$1/gallon. We had control over the fuel, truck route and load, same driver, engine oil & antifreeze..

The truck was chosen because it ran a regular daily route, and had an engine with < 150,000miles.

Oh yeah, our dyno showed a change in torque from 1345 to almost 1500, and getting better mileage too.

Ok, enough of this, they aren't paying me for this.
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