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Tiger 800 - 800XC Mods & Workshop Workshop and technical talk for the 800 - 800XC Tourer - Adventurer Tigers

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Old 10-04-2011, 02:53 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I like the deeper but not much louder aspect of the "baffled" Arrow can too. But my Arrow wouldn't be "bag safe" IMO -- not ashamed to say, I've never tried touching it hot to find out.

Your heat reason is a great one and a very valid one. Good thinking.

If yours is like mine, with the baffle out it emphasizes the "dirt bike" type of sound when you blip it between gears etc. and would make it more safe / audible in the bush if there was limited visibility. Would definitely not like to collect some random bush walker who thought this track looked like a nice hiking trail...

But for road riding with more monotonous revs (like holding it at 115km/h) for long stretches (heck, even a half hour home from the dealer on Day One for me) the baffle is missed and I wanted it back in due to the steady note being just loud and not blippy and fun like it is when you're gearing around or doing the urban lane splitting idiot thing... Thus I got home & said, Right let's head back over there for that pipe. :-)

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Old 02-22-2012, 09:59 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Has anyone ran it with the plate in and the baffle out? I'm interested in knowing what the sound/power difference is in comparison to no plate and baffle in. Thanks!
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Not sure you would want to. It's a major restrictor plate and would affect hp.
Last two months I removed the baffle.
Motor seems to be noticeably livelier and has a sweet burbble at low revs.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:46 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Yeah, prob not. I dont want to sacrifice power but dont want it too loud either. I'm thinking about shaving an inch or so off the baffle. This might give me a 'best of both worlds' effect.
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Old 02-27-2012, 09:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Yeah, prob not. I dont want to sacrifice power but dont want it too loud either. I'm thinking about shaving an inch or so off the baffle. This might give me a 'best of both worlds' effect.
So I did just that. With the baffle out it was way to much of a drone so I used a pipe cutter and cut the stock length down by half and now I am very happy!
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:40 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Any opinions on changes to the throttle response, does the pipe make the Tiger feel more responsive? Anyone tried a foam or K&N air filter and dyno remap with a pipe?
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Old 12-01-2012, 07:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Ok I am going to weigh in on the question of whether a remap is necessary or required when you install Leo Vince slip on.
My experience: installed Leo Vince about 2500 miles ago. The bike was noticeably stronger starting at 6000 rpm and otherwise performed pretty much as it did with the stock exhaust. Very smooth through out the speed range,no stumbles or twitches as a result of exhaust change. (except of course much sweeter sound)
So OK all good so far but then I got to reading that a less restrictive exhaust used with the stock map may result in a "too lean" and hotter combustion temperature to the detriment of exhaust valve life. So after some soul searching I decided to try the Arrow tune.
Have about 300 miles on the Arrow tune -performance has been significantly improved throughout the rpm range. No dyno confirmation but it is obvious when you roll your right wrist there is a stronger response and I think a little throatier sound. The other characteristic that I noticed is what usually sounds like ping pong balls bouncing around inside a coffee can during deceleration is virtually gone.
The tradeoff: Mileage dropped from approximately 46-47 mpg to a flat 40 mpg.
My suggestion: if you want a bit more power and "exhaust valve piece of mind" the Arrow tune seems like a good idea.
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I'm not running quite that low mpg. More like 43 to 45.
I'm sure it would bring 50 on a trip.
Running with baffle in although it seems slightly better with it out.
Just too loud for my taste.
Once in a while ill pull the baffle for a few days for fun but generally leave it pluged up.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:21 PM   #49 (permalink)
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No dyno confirmation but it is obvious when you roll your right wrist there is a stronger response and I think a little throatier sound. The other characteristic that I noticed is what usually sounds like ping pong balls bouncing around inside a coffee can during deceleration is virtually gone.
The tradeoff: Mileage dropped from approximately 46-47 mpg to a flat 40 mpg.
My suggestion: if you want a bit more power and "exhaust valve piece of mind" the Arrow tune seems like a good idea.
I agree with pretty much everything here. I remapped to the Arrow map right after installing my Leo Vince last May. I love the pipe. Luckily I've seen pretty good gas millage, averaging around 47mpg, though I'm not a super aggressive rider so...ymmv.

I'd have to say the pipe is probably my favorite add-on, and I love the "ping pong balls". The bike is a bit of a cacophony, what with the jet engine whine and the low, growling roar. The ping pong balls are the icing on the cake.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:09 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Don't know if I missed it while scanning the previous posts, but does the L-V exhaust have a USFS spark arrester approved device? I know it seems odd to ask but many offroad places in Calif are requiring such a device. Sure don't wanna start any fires!
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