Triumphrat

MacBandit · 03-21-2012, 11:42 AM

Total BS. It doesn't matter if the battery is removed it will hold whatever map is currently loaded. ECUs hold the map in a non volatile flash memory. Also once you load a map it completely replaces the old one so there is no way it can fall back to anything.

As for a limp home mode. Yes there is a sort limp home mode but isn't a different map it's just default values for various sensors.

It sounds to me like the dealer realized they screwed up and either didn't load a map at all last time or their software was out of date so the map they loaded was old.

Hawkbox · 03-22-2012, 10:38 AM

That sounds pretty normal to me. "Oh we screwed up, come up with something!" But as long as it was fixed.

spinoeca · 03-27-2012, 11:06 PM

so chapter ??? The dealership received and installed new throttle body assemblies and after a couple of test rides pronounced the bike fixed. Both the service manager and mechanic intimated that the speed with which the proposed warranty work was approved indicated that they (Triumph) had info that lead them to think that this was the ultimate fix. I am trying to maintain a positive attitude about this. Dealer has been wonderful but don't think that I would recommend this bike to anybody else. Got about 80 miles on the bike but won't be able to do serious riding until we return from riding the otherbikes up from La Paz. Stay tuned.

blacktiger · 03-28-2012, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spinoeca

so chapter ??? The dealership received and installed new throttle body assemblies and after a couple of test rides pronounced the bike fixed. Both the service manager and mechanic intimated that the speed with which the proposed warranty work was approved indicated that they (Triumph) had info that lead them to think that this was the ultimate fix. I am trying to maintain a positive attitude about this. Dealer has been wonderful but don't think that I would recommend this bike to anybody else. Got about 80 miles on the bike but won't be able to do serious riding until we return from riding the otherbikes up from La Paz. Stay tuned.

You've got to try to put this into some perspective. The number of bikes having problems is very small according to the posts on various forums. Normally forums are accused of magnifying things like this because only the problems are posted but this is minute compared to some BMW forums.
I do hope this has sorted the problems on your bike and you can start really enjoying it to the full.

DonR · 11-15-2012, 11:00 PM

I know this is an old thread but I didn't see a definitive answer to the original complaint of the bike failing to idle and just stalling when the throttle is released.
I just got my bike back fixed for the second time that this has happened. It is a 2012 (1/12) 800 XC ABS that I purchased in March.
The first time it lost its idle was in August. The dealer (Erico in Denver) adjusted the idle control valve and the TPS and remapped the ECU with the latest map.
This time it lost the idle intermittently. After some restarts it would idle and after others it would not. The dealer again adjusted the idle control valve and remapped with the latest updated map.
Hoping this does it.

blacktiger · 11-16-2012, 07:19 AM

AFAIK there were two things :-
1, it was discovered that dust and dirt got onto the idle stepper motor mechanism and prevented that mechanism getting back to its proper setting. Bike was difficult to start and wouldn't tickover.
2, new software was released by Triumph which raised the tickover speed, by 200rpm or so, once the clutch was released which should help prevent it stalling on overrun.
The solution, apart from having the software update, is to clean and dry lube the stepper motor mechanism.
Loads of threads elsewhere on different forums.

TheHaymaker · 11-17-2012, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacBandit

If the stepper motor is adjusted correctly it takes more then just a little dust to throw it out of adjustment.

If it is a dust issue, does this mean the Tiger wasn't made for, or ever tested, in the dirt?

Just kindling.

blacktiger · 11-18-2012, 04:50 AM

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If it is a dust issue, does this mean the Tiger wasn't made for, or ever tested, in the dirt?

No, I don't think so BUT..........it may be the case that it wasn't tested following a large group that are throwing up huge amounts of dust. Could be that the answer, from Triumph, is simply a stronger stepper motor in future models.

TheHaymaker · 11-22-2012, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blacktiger

No, I don't think so BUT..........it may be the case that it wasn't tested following a large group that are throwing up huge amounts of dust. Could be that the answer, from Triumph, is simply a stronger stepper motor in future models.

I posted that, tongue in cheek, but I hate to worry. If this turns into what qualifies as a "known issue" in less than two years, what's going to happen when these things get along in years?

That said, even though I only have 1500 miles on the clock, the more I ride this bike the more I love it. The Ninja is almost forgotten.

blacktiger · 11-23-2012, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHaymaker

I posted that, tongue in cheek, but I hate to worry. If this turns into what qualifies as a "known issue" in less than two years, what's going to happen when these things get along in years?

Well, the guys in Aus use dry lube on the offending parts and the "problem" goes away. It's also reckoned, in some circles, that Triumph has issued a directive to their mechanics to lube the components at service. So, once your bike has been lubed you don't have any worries. I'd put it in the "maintenance" category rather than in the "problem" category.
Happy riding.