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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 09-13-2012, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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Fly by wire failure?

Has anyone experienced a failure of this system? Had to have the motor replaced??

Am I right in saying that only this model plus the new trophy has it? I wonder why they didn't stick with an old fashioned throttle cable??
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post #2 of 46 (permalink) Old 09-13-2012, 11:26 AM
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the throtle cable isnt high tech enough, it costs less, and dosnt need replacement as often, therefor, it would not raist the price of the bike.
cars are using this too, I dont really trust computers, I work on them all day, and know they can fail from many causes, as well as quite predictable failures and obsolencense in a few years.

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I wonder why they didn't stick with an old fashioned throttle cable??
Throttle by wire opens up many possibilities. Wheelie\traction control, launch control, selectable throttle responsiveness levels, fuel economy modes, etc. Whether we are asking for it or not, it is the way manufactures are going. In the US, stability control is mandatory on new cars, it is probably only a matter of time before the same applies to bikes.
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And I guess it's used for the cruise control feature too.
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But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!

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But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!
If it's good enough for fighter pilots, I reckon it's good enough for me.
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But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!
I agree with you, I'm not keen on it either but I guess that all bikes and cars will have it one day. Interesting point about planes, they have had it for years, I wonder what sort of back up system they have if it does fail mid flight?
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Unnecessary complication. A bike is not a fighter jet - I need the throttle to roll on when I call for it, and shut down when I need it to. This is just an overly complicated system that adds no real world value. It's just a motorcycle, give me a break. I test rode an Explorer and found the throttle to be overly sensitive and twitchy. I hated it. Any kind of disturbance in the pavement caused changes in throttle position. It was a pleasure to operate the throttle on my 955 during the ride home. Thanks, but NO THANKS!

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The over sensitive throttle has been a huge complaint in all the reviews I've read so far. Triumph will get the hint and create a new map to cure that. Give them some time and the system will be flawless soon enough. It's the roll out year, they need time to work out the bugs just like the stalling issue of the first run 800's.

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I agree with you, I'm not keen on it either but I guess that all bikes and cars will have it one day. Interesting point about planes, they have had it for years, I wonder what sort of back up system they have if it does fail mid flight?

There are dozens of vids on the net about new figther jets crashing because of a computer malfunction, but point taken

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