Fly by wire failure? - Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums
» Main Menu

Discussion Forums
 » Twins
 » Tiger
 » General
 » RAT

Features
 » Blogs

Motorcycle.com Links

Contribute
 » Photo

Motorcycle Forums
» Insurance
» Sponsors
» Our Partners
»ATV Reviews
»Motorcycle Games

Tiger 1200 - Mods & Workshop Workshop and technical talk for the 1200 Tiger Explorer

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-13-2012, 11:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: Honda
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 26
Fly by wire failure?

Has anyone experienced a failure of this system? Had to have the motor replaced??

Am I right in saying that only this model plus the new trophy has it? I wonder why they didn't stick with an old fashioned throttle cable??
earthman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 09-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
Formula Extreme
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: augusta ks.
Posts: 744
the throtle cable isnt high tech enough, it costs less, and dosnt need replacement as often, therefor, it would not raist the price of the bike.
cars are using this too, I dont really trust computers, I work on them all day, and know they can fail from many causes, as well as quite predictable failures and obsolencense in a few years.
__________________
2006 Bonnie Black
1980 Yamaha xs650 sold 4-30-2011
alfacliff is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-13-2012, 11:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
Member
Grand Prix 250
Main Motorcycle: 2012 Street Triple
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Auburn Hills, MI
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by earthman View Post
I wonder why they didn't stick with an old fashioned throttle cable??
Throttle by wire opens up many possibilities. Wheelie\traction control, launch control, selectable throttle responsiveness levels, fuel economy modes, etc. Whether we are asking for it or not, it is the way manufactures are going. In the US, stability control is mandatory on new cars, it is probably only a matter of time before the same applies to bikes.
grath is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-14-2012, 09:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
New Member
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: Honda
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 26
And I guess it's used for the cruise control feature too.
earthman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-15-2012, 10:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: 2006 Tiger '955
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hartlepool. U.K.
Posts: 1,793
But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!
__________________
Safe riding.
Regards,
Graeme.
Tiger-G is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
Grand Prix 250
Main Motorcycle: 2012 Street Triple
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Auburn Hills, MI
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger-G View Post
But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!
If it's good enough for fighter pilots, I reckon it's good enough for me.
grath is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 04:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
New Member
Grand Prix 125
Main Motorcycle: Honda
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger-G View Post
But as stated, computers and electrical gadgets fail. There's no need to have a FBW throttle on a bike. I don't like the idea of me being mid bend, or approaching a junction to stop, only for the gremlins to put me in a ditch or in front of a car !!
I agree with you, I'm not keen on it either but I guess that all bikes and cars will have it one day. Interesting point about planes, they have had it for years, I wonder what sort of back up system they have if it does fail mid flight?
earthman is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-16-2012, 09:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
Grand Prix 500
Main Motorcycle: 2006 Tiger 955i
 
cjmadura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Beaverton, Oregon USA
Posts: 115
Other Motorcycle: 2008 KLR 650
Unnecessary complication. A bike is not a fighter jet - I need the throttle to roll on when I call for it, and shut down when I need it to. This is just an overly complicated system that adds no real world value. It's just a motorcycle, give me a break. I test rode an Explorer and found the throttle to be overly sensitive and twitchy. I hated it. Any kind of disturbance in the pavement caused changes in throttle position. It was a pleasure to operate the throttle on my 955 during the ride home. Thanks, but NO THANKS!

Last edited by cjmadura; 09-16-2012 at 09:32 PM.
cjmadura is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-17-2012, 01:22 PM   #9 (permalink)
Moderator
Site Supporter
SuperSport
Main Motorcycle: 2011 Tiger 800
 
GearHd6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Ashford, CT
Posts: 1,300
Other Motorcycle: 1998 Daytona T595
The over sensitive throttle has been a huge complaint in all the reviews I've read so far. Triumph will get the hint and create a new map to cure that. Give them some time and the system will be flawless soon enough. It's the roll out year, they need time to work out the bugs just like the stalling issue of the first run 800's.
__________________
Jeff
2011 Tiger 800
1998 Daytona T595
GearHd6 is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-17-2012, 05:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
SuperBike
Main Motorcycle: 2006 Tiger '955
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hartlepool. U.K.
Posts: 1,793
Quote:
Originally Posted by earthman View Post
I agree with you, I'm not keen on it either but I guess that all bikes and cars will have it one day. Interesting point about planes, they have had it for years, I wonder what sort of back up system they have if it does fail mid flight?

There are dozens of vids on the net about new figther jets crashing because of a computer malfunction, but point taken
__________________
Safe riding.
Regards,
Graeme.
Tiger-G is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Triumph Forum: Triumph Rat Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter your valid email address, that can receive an automated confirmation message. Otherwise, you won't be able to gain full access.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Oil leak from boot/rubber seal on the alternator wire (might be stator wire)-Thruxton esbowman Twins Technical Talk 25 04-24-2014 12:03 PM
MoT Failure TheDelMonteMan Speed Triple Forum 8 06-23-2010 05:15 PM
another failure saphena Biker Hang-Out 12 05-25-2010 11:03 PM
Rogue Red wire sprouting from new wire harness Kev_England Classic, Vintage & Veteran 11 11-16-2009 11:08 AM
3-wire signals onto two wire system? Gearhead_42 Sprint Forum 0 01-25-2009 04:14 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:01 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Motorcycle News, Videos and Reviews
Honda Grom Forum Harley Davidson Forum Honda 600RR Kawasaki Forum Yamaha R6 Forum Yamaha FZ-09 Forum
1199 Panigale Forum Roadglide Forum Honda CBR1000 Forum Vulcan Forum Yamaha R1 Forum Yamaha R3 Forum
Ducati Monster Forum Harley Forums Honda CBR250R Forum ZX10R Forum Star Raider Forum Yamaha Viking Forum
Suzuki GSXR Forum V-Rod Forums Honda Shadow Forum Kawasaki Motorcycle Forum Star Warrior Forum KTM Duke 390 Forum
SV650 Forum BMW S1000RR Forum Honda Fury Forum Kawasaki Versys Forum Drag Racing Forum Ducati 899 Panigale Forum
Suzuki V-Strom BMW K1600 Triumph Forum Victory Forums Sportbikes BMW NineT Forum
Volusia Forum BMW F800 Forum Triumph 675 Forum MV Agusta Forum HD Street Forum Suzuki GW250 Forum
Yamaha Motorcycles Victory Gunner Forum Honda Vultus Forum HD LiveWire Forum Ninja H2 Forum Ducati Scrambler Forum

Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.