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Old 07-16-2012, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Explorer Problems: Cruise Control & Throttle

Greetings!

After around 1100 miles, a couple of problems have crept up with my Tiger Explorer.... Let me preface that I'm an experienced rider with a stable of Triumphs and other bikes to compare some of my issues to ( in other words, I'm not over sensitive to anomalies in a machine...)

1.) After switching out the stock grips for the Triumph Heated Grips, I've found that the throttle is extremely funky and rather "loose". While many of made mention of a twitchy throttle with the drive-by-wire, this is downright funky...hit a slight bump in the road and you will get power surges, no matter how you adjust your grip. I find in general it is "vague" feeling at best...The stock was much better.

I contacted Triumph and they stated they have only heard of this on an anecdotal basis, but I believe it could become a safety issue...especially on a bike that is designed to do it all. I would encourage you to express this to your dealer if you have a similar feeling, or call Triumph as well. My dealer believes it might be a tuning issue since it is drive-by-wire. I'm also going to look at throttle grease, which many have reported can help.

2.) I discovered that the cruise control on my bike will not disengage with the front brake application. SCARY! I went to apply some light braking, and found that with the adjustment in speed, the bike actually wanted to take off: it was adding speed while applying the front brake at the same time. Let me say it was a bit unnerving.
I tested it multiple times at slower speeds, and it was consistent. If I applied the rear brake or clutch, it was an instant off.

Triumph advised to take it in, and expressed concerned about what was reported on this last point....

Needless to say, she goes to the shop next week to take a quick peek.

Otherwise, after some extremely enjoyable rides, she is definitely a hit, and Triumph knocked it out of the park with this bike.

Let me know if you have had any similar issues!
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Having the exact same issue with the cruise and the front brake switch for deactivation of cruise function.
Worked great the first day, second day of riding, the bike just wants to accelerate really hard depending how hard you apply the front brakes. I have had to resort to cycling the clutch lever or apply the rear brake.
I have found people in British forums with same issue.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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This seems to be a common thing. I've taken apart the brake switch and there are actually two different switches in the housing. One for the cruise control deactivation and one to light the brake light. However, they both seem to activate at the same amount of lever travel. I could live with the cruise control part, but you can actually brake fairly hard before the brake light is activated. Try it yourself, ride at night and watch your mirrors for the brake light to come on as you are braking. On my bike, I could ride 'normal' and almost never activate the brake light (unless I use the rear brake, which lights when barely moving the pedal as it should). I have a feeling this will be a recall issue to fix.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Traded my 2011 Tiger 800 for a new Explorer. Not sure that was a good move. The 800 had zero issues. Went for a 2 day ride through New Hampshire & Maine last week. Seat is a best good for 2 hours. On a
On a very bumy road the overly sensative trottle created surgeing which was very upsetting. Going to dealer Monday

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Old 07-28-2012, 10:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Greetings!

After around 1100 miles, a couple of problems have crept up with my Tiger Explorer.... Let me preface that I'm an experienced rider with a stable of Triumphs and other bikes to compare some of my issues to ( in other words, I'm not over sensitive to anomalies in a machine...)

1.) After switching out the stock grips for the Triumph Heated Grips, I've found that the throttle is extremely funky and rather "loose". While many of made mention of a twitchy throttle with the drive-by-wire, this is downright funky...hit a slight bump in the road and you will get power surges, no matter how you adjust your grip. I find in general it is "vague" feeling at best...The stock was much better.

I contacted Triumph and they stated they have only heard of this on an anecdotal basis, but I believe it could become a safety issue...especially on a bike that is designed to do it all. I would encourage you to express this to your dealer if you have a similar feeling, or call Triumph as well. My dealer believes it might be a tuning issue since it is drive-by-wire. I'm also going to look at throttle grease, which many have reported can help.

2.) I discovered that the cruise control on my bike will not disengage with the front brake application. SCARY! I went to apply some light braking, and found that with the adjustment in speed, the bike actually wanted to take off: it was adding speed while applying the front brake at the same time. Let me say it was a bit unnerving.
I tested it multiple times at slower speeds, and it was consistent. If I applied the rear brake or clutch, it was an instant off.

Triumph advised to take it in, and expressed concerned about what was reported on this last point....

Needless to say, she goes to the shop next week to take a quick peek.

Otherwise, after some extremely enjoyable rides, she is definitely a hit, and Triumph knocked it out of the park with this bike.

Let me know if you have had any similar issues!
Motorcycle.com and Motorcycle Consumer News both noted the problem with the throttle. It's worse when your standing on the pegs. Triumph needs to fix it.

MCN also didn't like the front suspension and we not able to adjust it adequately.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:17 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I picked up my Explorer last Thursday and took it for a good running in session around Wales on Saturday (did around 400 miles). I have heated grips which were fitted by the dealer and have to say that I have not had any problems with either throttle controlability or cruise control. I took the bike off on a gravelly track on the Breon Beacons, and whilst I agree that getting used to the fly-by-wire off road - I have found that control is satisfactory. In addition and putting a positive spin on the above comments, the engine is a real delight, not needing revs about the 5000 that I can currently go to based on the running in recommendations. The bike is comfortable, planted and just as agile (if not more) than my previous 955i Daytona. I quite understand now why this bike is outselling the GS1200. If I do experience any Cruise control issues as the miles pile on I will let you know, but to date the front brake has disconnected it with no issues...although to be honest I tend to flick the throttle forward to disengage as it seems more logical....and as a parting cooment, the bike does look awesome too!
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Old 10-02-2012, 11:01 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The fly-by-wire does take some time to get use to...I have only 8000 miles on the bike and I am just getting the "hang" of the throttle (verses my old Sprint which you needed a death grip to keep the throttle open). I also flick the throttle forward to disengage the cruise control - it is often a little abrupt (wakes up my girlfriend!). A great two up bike, specially with the top box...
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:51 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I thought I was sold on a T800 roadie until I started reading about the Explorer. Other than a few issues with throttle and cruise, it seems like a great machine!
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The first time I activated the Cruise Control and subsequently tried to turn it off by braking, it didn't work. I just closed the throttle and it shut off. I didn't even know it was supposed to turn off with brake application. This is something I will bring up to my dealership when I get the lights fitted.
I have nearly 1800 miles on it after four weeks and am delighted with the bike in general. The seat took almost 1000 miles to bed in and having rode from Vintage Days at Barber's in Birmingham, AL back home to Dayton, OH only stopping every 190 miles for fuel, in under 8 hours (including a quick breakfast at Cracker Barrel :-) ) I can say this out tours the Sprint ST's I've owned.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:22 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I've had my 1200 for almost 2 months and have put 3800 miles on her. It took a little getting use to the throttle by wire, VERY responsive. After the first 2 days of riding it now is second nature to me....wouldn't change a thing about the throttle.

My seat took about 1000 miles to break in, the first 300 were absolutely terrible and gave me pause to question buying an after market or going to the soft seat available from Triumph. Glad I waited , the stock seat is one the most comfortable seats I've owned.

The cruise works for the most part as designed. I've had a few glitches regarding not being able to engage from time to time. I would recommend when wanting to disengage the cruise...use the foot brake while maintaining throttle.....works great.

Bottom line....I love this ride. Sometimes I miss my Tiger 1050 but that lasts for a few minutes and no regrets.
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