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11-07-2012, 08:29 PM
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how do i get the engine warning light off
just downloaded a new tune into my storm ,so i`ve kicked the cat out but the engine warning light has stayed on ,does anyone have any advice on this ?
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11-07-2012, 08:54 PM
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On the R3T it will shut itself off after three start cycles. A start cycle for the R3T is defined as "start, reach operating temperature, shut down, and cool down."
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11-07-2012, 09:09 PM
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The cat missing isn't probably why the light is on. What tune # did you load into it ? Make sure it is one thats designated as "without secondary air injection". That would be map #20363 who's specs are: aftermarket silencers, WITHOUT SAI, all markets except japan. If the bike WITH SAI sees a mpa thats doesn't have SAI enabled it will throw a code and the lite goes on. I assume the other way around is also true, and yours has no SAI. So make sure you re using 20363. Or if you want the bike to be tuned more properly, use the custom decat tune thats available elsewhere. I can't link you to it due to the fact this site won't allow links to the site that hosts the file. But if u PM me and give me your email i'll send it to you. I can't even tell you in a PM because they have the forum code tweaked so if you link to that site even in a PM it shows as a rat forum link instead. Anyways, you'll get better power with it because the triumph tor tunes are not meant for catless running. Your call.....either one will work but the custom tune runs much better.
Oh, and if it's not a incorrect map thats thrown the engine lite, connect tune ecu and look at the bar one the bottom....it will display the error code # that threw the engine light and in the service manual it will tell you what that code means.
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11-07-2012, 09:59 PM
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If you're using tune ecu you can read the engine codes and rest them. If the codes are serious and keep recurring, you need to do something about it.
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11-11-2012, 08:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
just downloaded a new tune into my storm ,so i`ve kicked the cat out but the engine warning light has stayed on ,does anyone have any advice on this ?
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dazco is correct. If you load the tune for secondary air injection and your bike doesn't have it, the light stays on. I think SAI is limited to CA bikes, but I don't know about Australia.
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11-11-2012, 10:36 AM
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No, SAI is on most if not all of the initial year regardless of location. They removed it soon tho, i think on the second model year. You will see they even have maps for japan only with SAI. The Ca thing you're thinking of is the EVAP (evaporitive loss) system. Thats Ca only, tho you will sometimes find it on bikes sold elsewhere because they sometimes shuffle bikes around to supply dealers and they end up somewhere besides Ca.
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11-12-2012, 07:41 AM
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Does having EVAP or not matter when selecting a tune? Reason I ask is that when I put the Hog Slayers on, they (BC) recommended a specific tune (unfortunately, I don't have the numbers handy). My dealer put that one in and the light stayed on. He put the "other" TORS tune in and everything was fine. I'm on vacation and will look up the numbers when I get back.
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11-12-2012, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BigGuy82
Does having EVAP or not matter when selecting a tune? Reason I ask is that when I put the Hog Slayers on, they (BC) recommended a specific tune (unfortunately, I don't have the numbers handy). My dealer put that one in and the light stayed on. He put the "other" TORS tune in and everything was fine. I'm on vacation and will look up the numbers when I get back.
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There are 3 possible wrong maps for each bike in either stock form or with pipes. If you have say a non SAI bike, then since you are in the USA, you'd have the wrong one if you put any of the following in....
Japan only with SAI
japan only w/o SAI
all countries except japan with SAI
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11-16-2012, 12:03 AM
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all good thanks everyone i`ve got the light off by downloading the tune again but also reseting the program and shutting off the sai ,purrs along at 110 kph 350 k`s out of a tank 120 kph and up it`s like there is a hole in the tank .(don`t speed i guess )
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11-18-2012, 03:31 PM
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I had the evap on my bike probably because NV gets the same lot of bikes as CA. I had big problems with the evap system. If everything isn't flowing right, it can cause big problems, like the engine just stops. I think they finally disabled it, ripped it out, or replaced the bad bits. I haven't had the chance to look. However, the evap has nothing to do with the tune.
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