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Thunderbird Twin - Technical Talk Technical talk for the big Thunderbird twin

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Old 10-14-2012, 12:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thunrderbird Storm Pipes

Well, I made the switch from HD and Thunderbird Storm and I'm loving it so far. The first mod I usually make on my bikes is the pipe. From one I see on the forums and on the internet, there are relatively few options out there.

I know that there have been several threads started on this....but some of them haven't been updated in a while. Would it be possible to provide a clean, short list of after-market pipe options, who provides them, and if they in fact have any performance enhancements (from your own experience or otherwise).

I'd prefer shorter pipes, and I know there are several options for these. I'm also leaning towards the blacked-out look. Are we pretty much limited to Triumph Stock, TORS and Hog Slayers? If so, what are the pros and cons of each. I know that adding after market pipes won't make or break my performance....but I'm a tinker and I always have to be doing something. Any help is appreciated....it would be great to just have a list of options.

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Old 10-14-2012, 01:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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for the short look I think we are more limited I run the factory shorts and am very happy with them. I think the Zard pipes are the only other option for short pipes but not sure.

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Old 10-14-2012, 01:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There are actually a lot of options. Beside what you mentioned there are forans, stainless ride, predators, (also from BC) and 4 or 5 more i can't recall. Just beware there get very expensive on the high side and you really get very little if anything for the extra $ in many cases. My current setup which i feel is great for the money is short TORs
(about $350 discount) and cat removal with proper tune and the power is great and the tone quite nice if a bit loud. Theres a windows app called tuneECU you can use to connect a PC to the bike and load the triumph tunes that are available. And theres a guy who had his 1700 dyno tuned using tuneECU with his cat removed and short TORs. So if you go that route you will enjoy 7.5 Ft Lbs and 5 HP@3500RPM's over the 1700 with tors and tors tune and cat intact. And you can load it yourself. So that my recommendation. For about $350 for the shorts, about $5 for a 90 degree 1.25" diameter elbow (cut in 1/2 and used as cat bypass) at a hardware store you can gain quite a bit of power. And tuneECU id free, tho you'll have to buy a cable. (about $10-20 on ebay)

Thats IMO the best way to go as far as bang for the buck. the short tors also have the benefit of allowing axl acces so you can adjust the belt or remove the wheel for changing tires w/o having to remove the right muffler. Another benefit is weight. Final benefit is somehow the short TORs reduce the bike';s vibration. I think it's the fact that the long pipes extend a foot or more past the mounting point and as they vibrate they act like a lever to transfer that vibration to the frame. whatever the reason, i'm not the only one who experienced a loss of vibration with them. They are also the least expensive pipe, and IMO the best looking. Construction quality isn't as good as some others tho it's fine, and they are 1/2 the cost of the next cheapest and about 1/5 as much as the forans !

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Old 10-14-2012, 12:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess its just me then as everything I looked at appears to be longer than the short tor.

The zard exhaust didnt look to be as long as the others but did seem to be longer than the short tor.

My friend runs the british customs pipe on his bike and the sound is good but the pipe is long.

So please enlighten me. What pipes are out there with a good sound that are compareable in size to the short tor?
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Old 10-14-2012, 02:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Paul. I have the black hogslayers with wrapped headers which I love. They look great on my strorm. A little louder that the short tors and black. I had the short tors from new and think they are great value at half the price of the hogslayers. However living in the home of Harley I needed a little more volume and wanted black. Just preference. Both very good IMO.


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Old 10-14-2012, 05:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes personal preference! Short pipe! Sound is secondary!
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I missed that part, but yes, the zards are short. Slightly longer than tors but possibly enough to lose one of what i consider one of the most important features of the tors....the ability to get to the axl with a torque wrench. I may be wrong but thats what it looks like. They are also what....3 times as much price wise? They're nice, but thats just way too much IMO, and they also aren't shaped quite the same as the shorts at the end, and i personally like the tors more in that regard. But those are MY opinions. On the other hand, i have no doubt the zards are made much better. But i personally couldn't justify paying a lot more plus trading axl access and best looks. But again thats me.

That said, i believe there are 1 or 2 almost as short, but i can't recall which. Possibly the stainless ride might be one. ugly as he|| tho IMO.
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I agree with the price factor and havent been able to get myself to spend the cash. As of right now I am contemplating buying a set of shorts and gutting them and installing my own baffles to attain the look and sound I want.
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Thanks guys. This is helpful. After only a week I'm already loving the TBird more than any HD I've owned.....just need to personalize it a little bit.
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I'd run the tor shorts
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