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joey1970 · 08-09-2012, 07:15 PM

I took a better look at it today and I think Daz is right. It looks to be routed funny. I was able to slip a plastic zip tie under the tank and secure it to the upper frame bar (not too tight of course). Hopefully that'll keep it in place.

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Scarecrow03 · 08-11-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by joey1970

I just broke 500 miles on my t-bird. I have not yet scheduled the 1st service because I'm still waiting for the accessories package that Triumph included with the bike. My dealer is gonna put them on during the first service.

Anyway.. this past weekend.. i was out for a short ride. I was about 3 blocks from my home when suddenly.. I heard a pop/clunk noise. It sounded like it came from the exhaust. Suddenly.. the bike stalled and the check engine light came on. I started it back up.. and it stalled again. It continued to stall. I had to keep the throttle heavy.. til I got it home.. to keep it from stalling again.

It was a Saturday.. but I called my dealer. He told me to check under the tank and look for two sensor tubes. After 5 minutes of trying to identify them.. I finally did. One of them had come off the nipple it was attached to. I reconnected it.. and it started back up. After riding a few blocks.. the check engine light went out. It seemed like things were fine again.

Anyway.. it could be my imagination.. but since this incident on Saturday.. my t-bird feels like it's lacking power. To me.. it seems to hesitate on acceleration. Also.. it doesn't seem to "sound" the same either. Tho I'm still running stock pipes (I'm waiting on a set of hog slayers). It's very subtle.. so I'm not quite sure if it's legit.. or if I'm imagining it. LOL.

Anyone have any ideas?

I'm hoping to get it in for the 1st service within the next week or two.. so I'm sure they'll check it out. But the dealer is just too far away to bring it in until the accessories show up. I don't wanna have to make two trips.

I had the same exact issue with my bike, I kept bringing it back, in all probably five times. The dealership contacted Triumph only to find that the recommended fix was to superglue the fuel hose into the tank. ***?! I was incredulous to hear this but am happy to report that I've not had an issue since then and that was about a year ago.

- John

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one trick pony · 08-12-2012, 06:53 PM

how is the 12min tune done, by the way mine is just over 500 mile,didn't even get to my first service

one trick pony · 08-12-2012, 07:20 PM

how is the 12min tune done, by the way mine is just over 500 mile,didn't even get to my first service

dougl · 08-12-2012, 08:23 PM

Turn it on without touching the throttle, let it idle until the fan comes on and wait at least 12 minutes.

As far as the first service goes, I just had it. They check the ECU for codes and my dealer said they change the tune. I don't know about that but they do hook up the ECU on line to check the bike out. I know they changed something because the idle is lower, about 750 where it was 1000 when I bought it.

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BigGuy82 · 08-14-2012, 01:23 AM

So I'm enjoying the ride as usual. The T'Bird is humming along, looking and running great with no problems at all. I decide to have dinner, so I pull in for a burger - 30 minutes tops. I hop back on the 'Bird and cough, pop, wheeze, die. Try it again - same. Try it a third time and crack the throttle a little and shazam - it runs! Drive to the first light - dies. Restart, next light, ditto. Remembering what I read here about the MAP sensor tubes, I pull over but for the life of me, I can't find the stupid tiny tubes, not knowing that they are tucked in way to the front of the tank and that they are easy to find if you trace them from the throttle body. So, I drive it the twenty miles home, nursing the throttle at every light. Bike cools down, I look at the manual so I can find the tubes. I know this will shock some of you, but the tube was disconnected! Remember, it was running just fine until I parked the bike then re-started, making me wonder if perhaps there's a pressure issue pushing these damn hoses off. Anyway, I reconnected the tube and the bike ran fine, although the engine light stayed lit. I'm pretty sure the force tune will cure this, but I won't be able to do it until the morning when the engine is cold.

Here's the issue that I have with this. Obviously, this is a fairly common but easily fixed malady. So, why doesn't Triumph fix it? Really, the way that the tubes are affixed to the nipples is anything but reliable ... it's just a simple fit and the rubber nipple really isn't on there that tight. Super Glue - Triumph has got to be kidding! Regardless if this "cure" works or not, I'll be damned if I'll do some half-a**ed shabby repair on my bike just because Triumph wants to facilitate an easy cure for a problem that needs fixing. Come this weekend, the tanks coming off and I'll use small zip ties to fasten the nipple securely. Of course a better cure would be to take this little engineering FUBAR back to the drawing board and modify the fitting so as to make it truly reliable, but then again, the engineers might just decide to start super gluing each fitting at the factory ...

It's never the big things that get me going. It's always the details ...

Harry007x1 · 08-15-2012, 07:50 PM

With the frequency this problem is occurring and the fact that this could wind up being a safety issue seems to me a recall may be in order. This machine suddenly quits in traffic we could be looking at a catastrophe.

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Daycruiser · 08-17-2012, 05:20 AM

Anybody in the US file a compliant with the NHTSA about the hoses coming off?

BigGuy82 · 08-17-2012, 12:49 PM

Daycruiser,

Not yet, but I have had frequent correspondence with Triumph and the dealer, indicating my concerns about this being a safety issue.. The dealer has dogged it relentlessly but Triumph not so much. They say they haven't seen much of it, but I can actually believe that (see my post "Solution To MAP Sensor Tubes That Fall Off).

I sent a second email to Peter Carleo today indicating my concerns. I'll give him a day or two to answer and then forward it to Triumphs CEO if he doesn't or isn't sympathetic to my point of view. If that flops, I'm submitting a complaint to NHTSA. Meanwhile, the dealer has been driving this through Triumph's service hierarchy for resolution.

If anyone else feels strongly about this, I suggest that you send an email to Peter and if that goes nowhere, to Triumph's CEO. I'll post contact info if anyone desires it. Also, this is my approach. If you want to go directly to NHTSA, I encourage you to do so. It's just my way to not involve our increasingly intrusive government and use them only as a last resort (sorry, couldn't resist the political shot!)

I'm hard pressed to believe that Triumph wants to alienate it's good customers, so I'm really hoping they act independently without government involvement.

Enjoy the ride!

WV RAT · 09-11-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Lantesh

You can try the "12 minute tune." Search the site here of the details. It may help.

Not familiar with "12 minute tune."
My Bird did the same thing, limped back home, found one
tube off, replaced and now won't start. Yellow light still on.