Triumphrat

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Just got back from having the 500 service done sans oil. Had them add the TOR tune for the hard starting when warm and I must say, the bike runs like it should now. Very strong and solid again. The mechanic mentioned that this EFI system is very adaptable and with my bike coming from Idaho, it might have gotten confused between elevations, etc. I am not sure I believe any of this, if it truly is adaptable, it should have adapted itself to Texas!

The belt noise is fixed. I actually got the tool late this week and went out and readjusted it before I took it to the dealer this AM. It's was actually too tight and had zero deflection at 10lbs according to the tool. I loosened her up a but (1/2 a turn actually) and things seem to be back to normal. There is still a bit of a whine that I hear at 2500 RPM in second gear if you throttle up and down in this range it's kind of a *woob woob woob* sound. The dealer says this is more like tranny lash than belt noise. Whatever, I am happy for now. The service only ran $40 without the oil change.

In an effort to save me a little headache, I bought the tool for removing the oil filter while I was there. 40 freakin dollars for this thing...worse than Snap-On for Pete's sake. I'm gonna pick up the Mobile 1 tomorrow and get the oil changed.

I'm going to try and talk the folks over at D&D into a fitting some of their pipes on my bike with the TOR tune and filter in it, and throw it up on the dyno. They are only up in Ft. Worth so I might make a day of it. I'll obviously keep you posted. We'll see just how much we can squeeze out of this Bird =)

ataDude

Hey, let me know when you go to D&D and I could meet you over there!

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mad_angler

elevation adjustments are done on the fly just changes fuelling slightly for the air density so that would not have been your problem, it still shocks me how little these mechanics know about Fuel Injection, they say it will adjust for anything and its just not true, it can only adjust to maintain the required Air/Fuel for emission purposes, between 14 and 15/1 and this is only done under part throttle, anything more than very low throttle and the O2 sensors are ignored and the bike reefers to the pre-programmed tables

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Thunderbird 1700cc Big Bore - There's No Replacement For Displacement

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Well I did the oil change today and threw some of the Mobile 1 4T in the case. The break-in syrup was pretty dark. The bike is noticeably quieter and shifts a bit easier. Like a few others have posted here, it took a full 5 quarts to get it to the top of the dipstick. Interesting as even the mechanic at the dealer said put 4 and 1/3 quarts in it. I will say, that you're going to have a hell of a time getting that little filter out of there without the tool, or go with the Bosch filter with the nut on the end. I'm glad I picked it up while I was thinking about it.

Some thoughts, checking the oil level is very sensitive to the lean of the bike. Make sure you check it with it sitting completely upright, and make sure you screw the dipstick all the way in...remember there's a gallon+ of oil in there! On the belt adjustment, about 1/2 a turn on the 14mm adjuster is equal to about 5mm of deflection in the belt. It's pretty easy to get the adjustment wrong so get the tool, you'll get it right every time.

Anyway, very happy with the bike at the moment. Belt is corrected, though still making just a little jabber (or the trans is anyhoo), and the TOR tune is a big improvement. Now all I need to do is give it a bath and ride the piss out of it

dazco

It shouldn't take 5 full quarts. You should probably check the level again to make sure it's not over filled to be safe. Triumph states when completely dry it takes less than 4.5 quarts. So you may be overfilled. Did you screw the dipstick all the way down to check the level? If not, you would show a correct level with 5 quarts even tho it's over filled. It's got to be screwed all the way down to check the level.

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Actually, check your owner's handbook, pg. 106. "1.58 US Gallons dry"..that's over 6 quarts! Oil and Filter change states 1.11 US Gallons so it's not far off. From my days as a BMW tech I always warm up my vehicles and let it drain for about 20 minutes with the dipstick removed so I probably manage to get a little more out of it then most would. Checked it again and it's sitting right at the Max indicater of the dipstick.

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Waiting for an email back from Aaron so I'll let you know what he says. He mentioned they didn't have the Bird over there anymore so I sorta volunteered mine.

dazco

That seems odd because i drain it obsessively too. I warm it up then let it drain for 20 minutes or more, rocking it back and fourth now and then. When i finally put the drain plug back in theres hardly a drop i can coax out of it. I'm anal about draining every drop i can get. And when i filled it up it took 4.5 quarts or a bit under to the top mark which is 1.11 gallons. Are they saying theres a quart left in it that you can't drain? Where would that be....oil pump or such? That kinda blows because when i put fresh oil in i want ALL fresh oil.

mustang66man

I kind of scratched my head on that one too. When the service manuel has two different oil capacities. Where is that extra oil hiding.

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There are aparently some pockets of some sort that have to do with the counter balancers on the crank. I don't have a clear picture of what they could be though. I'm going to take a guess and say that if the crank is in a certain position, some of the extraneous oil might make it's way to the pan. This would explain the different change volumes people are experiencing. I'll tell you how much came out when I have a chance to dispose of it this week. It's sitting in a pan in the garage at the moment.